Dr Bob Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, rusty69 said: Through 17 years of previous experience having not owned one! I cant imagine living on a boat without a battery monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, Dr Bob said: I cant imagine living on a boat without a battery monitor. Me neither now. It like not having a smartgauge, how do people cope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, rusty69 said: Me neither now. It like not having a smartgauge, how do people cope. I know. Its certainly not negative not having a smartguage. I dont know how I would cope if I had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr Bob said: I know. Its certainly not negative not having a smartguage. I dont know how I would cope if I had one. I bet its already secretly on your next years Christmas list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, rusty69 said: I bet its already secretly on your next years Christmas list! I'll buy the duck one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, Dr Bob said: I know. Its certainly not negative not having a smartguage. I dont know how I would cope if I had one. Are they realy that smart? Mikes two seem to constantly argue between themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, cuthound said: Being of the "old school" i have never used a refractometer (they hadn't been invented for battery use when I was "on the tools"). Does it automatically correct for temperature or do you have to take the electrolyte temperature and apply the correction factor as with a hydrometer? My understanding is yes, but as @nicknorman has one, he’d be better to answer you. There’s a certain facebook page run by a chap and his oppo who are dead set against new ideas and they hate them. They’ve never tried one of course, but they’re happy to pronounce on how crap they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Are they realy that smart? Mikes two seem to constantly argue between themselves. Suspect MTB only has one really. Have you seen that film "fightclub" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canals are us? Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Bought a battery Specific gravity tester. Try it out next time I get a chance and finish off my electrical upgrade. Still to do: VSR buy and install. Wire in 4amp charge cable to engine start battery. Connect battery temp cable. Run wiring to new freezer location and make space in galley for it. Thanks for the various links and advice, it's much appreciated James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 United just lost!!! BRILLIANT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, Dr Bob said: United just lost!!! BRILLIANT. Geez,talk about off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, rusty69 said: Geez,talk about off topic I thought we were UNITED that smartgauges were not smart? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Dr Bob said: I cant imagine living on a boat without a battery monitor. Although we do not actually live aboard we do go for long summer cruises that involve cruising for weeks. We also spend a fair time tied up early in the season for painting and maintenance but I get by perfectly will without what is usually described as a battery monitor. We do have a decent voltmeter and ammeter so those [plus experience and a bit of knowledge tells me all I need to know about the batteries and what they need. Our 3 Exide leisure batteries are just coming up for their sixth year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr Bob said: I thought we were UNITED that smartgauges were not smart? We most certainly aren’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, WotEver said: We most certainly aren’t. He's talking about the royal "We" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, rusty69 said: He's talking about the royal "We" Does he use a composting toilet for the royal wee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, WotEver said: Does he use a composting toilet for the royal wee? Geez,talk about off topic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 24 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Geez,talk about off topic .....and it wasnt me this time.....but while we are off topic, Liverpool won so that makes my weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr Bob said: .....and it wasnt me this time.....but while we are off topic, Liverpool won so that makes my weekend Liverpool won what? What competition was the city taking part in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Liverpool won what? What competition was the city taking part in? No, they just won. Doesnt matter what or who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 hours ago, cuthound said: Being of the "old school" i have never used a refractometer (they hadn't been invented for battery use when I was "on the tools"). Does it automatically correct for temperature or do you have to take the electrolyte temperature and apply the correction factor as with a hydrometer? Yes, if you think about it, you are just taking a tiny drop of electrolyte and putting it on a slide, covering it so as to squish the tiny drop to cover the entire slide - ie large contact area and miniscule thickness. Thus the liquid almost immediately assumes the same temperature as the refractometer. Of course there is nothing much wrong with a float-type hydrometer, I am just always a little nervous of having a bulb full of corrosive liquid that I need to move into the light / up to my face to eliminate parallax etc. One wrong squish and it would be curtains. Well, curtains full of acid burn holes anyway. And then you have a "thing" with residual acid inside that has to be cleaned out without any drips getting into the wrong place etc. With the refractometer you get a tiny plastic pipette thing that allows you to transfer the drop to the slide, next to the battery, flip the slide cover over and then it is "safe" to move it to the light etc. Just my personal preference, and I also think that the refractometer is a little easier to read accurately than many floaty things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, nicknorman said: Yes, if you think about it, you are just taking a tiny drop of electrolyte and putting it on a slide, covering it so as to squish the tiny drop to cover the entire slide - ie large contact area and miniscule thickness. Thus the liquid almost immediately assumes the same temperature as the refractometer. Of course there is nothing much wrong with a float-type hydrometer, I am just always a little nervous of having a bulb full of corrosive liquid that I need to move into the light / up to my face to eliminate parallax etc. One wrong squish and it would be curtains. Well, curtains full of acid burn holes anyway. And then you have a "thing" with residual acid inside that has to be cleaned out without any drips getting into the wrong place etc. With the refractometer you get a tiny plastic pipette thing that allows you to transfer the drop to the slide, next to the battery, flip the slide cover over and then it is "safe" to move it to the light etc. Just my personal preference, and I also think that the refractometer is a little easier to read accurately than many floaty things. Thanks Nick. At the moment I have AGM's, so no need to measure SG, but when the time comes to replace them, I will probably get Trojans, space permitting, and a refractometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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