brighter lights

[haza]

hi all .we may have hit on this subject before ..as i am sit here typing this .i am looking around my boat .and i got to say the lighting is so dull .looking up at the ceiling i have 7 led small round lights ..any ideas of what i could replace them with to make it a lot brighter .

[WotEver]

Ummm... brighter LEDs?

[haza]

16.522 i can see why now lol ..i know that but which ones are the best and what watt. i think the ones i am using now are 10 watt but im not sure one that one 

[WotEver]

1 minute ago, haza said:

16.522 i can see why now lol ..i know that but which ones are the best and what watt. i think the ones i am using now are 10 watt but im not sure one that one 

10W LEDs are really REALLY bright. By way of example a modern 6W LED is approximately equivalent to a 40W mains bulb. 10W would be something like a 70W bulb. 

So now you have a guide, why not buy a few at different powers and see what suits?

[haza]

the ones i got in there at tho moment are pin based 

[WotEver]

Just now, haza said:

the ones i got in there at tho moment are pin based 

Yup. Loads around, just do a Google. 

[haza]

thanks 

[WotEver]

They’re probably G4

[haza]

dont now watt they are wotever .just now its dull ,

[dmr]

Get some new LEDs

We've had Leds for a long while now, and last week replaced the last couple of Halogens with new LEDs from Bedazzled (seriously clever name that is). The new ones are not only much brighter than the older ones but the warm white is now a prefect match for the original halogens, in fact maybe even "warmer".  The older ones now look decidedly green! Gonna get some more new ones in a minute!

.............Dave

[haza]

yes i have just looked they are the same as g4.sorry to be vague ..but i dont now anything about anything ...

thanks dave i was told not to replace till they have gone ..been waiting 4 years now .i got to get them sorted sometime this week ..the winter is going to be dull as it is .

[Drayke]

Try this link http://aquafax.co.uk/catalogue/2051-led I got all mine from them nice and bright.

[Chop!]

If you have warm white LEDs they are not as bright as cool white or daylight LEDs.

Also, it depends how old they are, as the latest LEDs are much brighter.

Finally, how many LEDs in each cluster?

It might be possible to replace the existing lamps with some that have more LEDs

There are several boating LED specialists in the canal comics. We usually use Bedazzled.

[haza]

i will call bedazzled tomorrow thanks ..when i was out  in the summer someone told me i was using more power then i need to be and was using .and was told the ones i have in at the moment are 10 watt each .so the 7 lights are got are taking a lot of duice i had not got a clue what he was on about 

[Richard10002]

I find that G4 LEDs of about 330 lumens are nice and bright for lounge kitchen, bedroom and bathroom.

Git a couple from Bedazzled, then found lite cone are a bit cheaper with free delivery for the other two.

The towers are almost too tall for my fittings, so I bought the circular ones with the prongs sticking out of the back from lite cone.

http://www.litecone.co.uk/Household-12v-G4-led-bulbs.htm

[ditchcrawler]

1 hour ago, dmr said:

Get some new LEDs

We've had Leds for a long while now, and last week replaced the last couple of Halogens with new LEDs from Bedazzled (seriously clever name that is). The new ones are not only much brighter than the older ones but the warm white is now a prefect match for the original halogens, in fact maybe even "warmer".  The older ones now look decidedly green! Gonna get some more new ones in a minute!

.............Dave

Diana is complaining that the new ones I fitted are too bright

[dmr]

3 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

Diana is complaining that the new ones I fitted are too bright

Yes, that really is the case with our recent ones, think I might get some smaller ones and swap them about. LED technology really has advanced.

Good to meet you again earlier this week. Kings Lock does a nice pint of beer. On the Weaver now, the poshed up "Bowling Green" also does a nice pint.

................Dave

[MtB]

On 25/10/2017 at 23:37, ditchcrawler said:

Diana is complaining that the new ones I fitted are too bright

 

There are two problems with LED lamps:

1) There seems to be no consistent way of knowing how bright they are going to be, other than to buy some (for a few dozen quid) and take pot luck. Or buy one and hope it is right and you have time to go back for more.

2) Listening to DAB radio and LED illuminations are mutually exclusive. The radio stops working when the lights are on except in really strong signal areas. Yes even with Bedazzled lamps in my experience.

 

[Jen-in-Wellies]

5 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

There are two problems with LED lamps:

1) There seems to be no consistent way of knowing how bright they are going to be, other than to buy some (for a few dozen quid) and take pot luck. Or buy one and hope it is right and you have time to go back for more.

2) Listening to DAB radio and LED illuminations are mutually exclusive. The radio stops working when the lights are on except in really strong signal areas. Yes even with Bedazzled lamps in my experience.

 

Knowing how bright an LED lamp is going to be is a problem. With the old incandescents there was some degree of standardisation. You had a pretty good idea how bright a 60W bulb was going to be wherever you got it. As others have said, watts isn't a good measure for LED's as the amount of light out for a given power depends on the efficiency and this has improved by leaps and bounds over the years. My ceiling lights are 10 years old and from Bedazzled. More recently I replaced some halogen bulbs in reading lights with LED's and you don't dare look at them directly.

The DAB/LED interference problem is a common one. People spend thousands on a snazzy new kitchen with LED lights everywhere, then find they have to go back to an old fashioned steam powered VHF radio as their DAB won't work with the lights on. It's caused by the DAB radio frequency being close to the frequency of the circuitry used to supply a constant current to the LED's. In house installations, the interference could come either from the mains transformer, or the LED's themselves. On boats we are not likely to be using a mains transformer, so the most likely cause is going to be the circuitry on the LED circuit board that is radiating a high frequency along the wires. You might be able to reduce it enough by clipping ferrite beads to the wires close to each LED fitting. Something like this, sized to fit closely round the input wires. Almost sure to get them cheaper on fleabay, rather than Maplins. No guarantee that this will work. RF interference problems are hard to solve and often take a lot of trial and error.

Jen

[ditchcrawler]

11 hours ago, dmr said:

Yes, that really is the case with our recent ones, think I might get some smaller ones and swap them about. LED technology really has advanced.

Good to meet you again earlier this week. Kings Lock does a nice pint of beer. On the Weaver now, the poshed up "Bowling Green" also does a nice pint.

................Dave

That was closed for referb last time we were that way, but I have been in the past.

[dmr]

9 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

There are two problems with LED lamps:

1) There seems to be no consistent way of knowing how bright they are going to be, other than to buy some (for a few dozen quid) and take pot luck. Or buy one and hope it is right and you have time to go back for more.

2) Listening to DAB radio and LED illuminations are mutually exclusive. The radio stops working when the lights are on except in really strong signal areas. Yes even with Bedazzled lamps in my experience.

 

We only have good old analog radio. Its ok with most of the LEDS though I did put capacitors on some of the very old ones. However if the signal is weak we do get a bit of interference.

The strangest thing is that Ive got a desk lamp on the table with a fairly old LED in it and last night that made the interference go away when I turned it ON, and the interference came back when I turned it off.

For the techies here...have you ever looked at the 12volt supply with a 'scope???? Ive got above mentioned LED lamp plus and two 12 to 19v computer supplies on the same circuit, its about 25 feet away from the batteries and done in 6mm cable, the measured voltage is effectively high frequency AC and drops right down to zero. Lots of inductance in these cables I suspect. Will investigate further next time I have the scope out.

...............Dave