Former Anderton Company motor "Norway"

[stagedamager]

there are instances of Kelvins being used in Working boats, Joel had one, and possibly Westminster although that ine is not confirmed. No J or K series i believe.

[agg221]

57 minutes ago, stagedamager said:

there are instances of Kelvins being used in Working boats, Joel had one, and possibly Westminster although that ine is not confirmed. No J or K series i believe.

I believe Joel originally had a petrol/paraffin E2 so surprisingly small. I’m sure Tom must have one kicking around if you decide that would be more historically appropriate…

 

Alec

[stagedamager]

5 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

I dont think it had a tin bottom ether 

or tin sides.....

[BEngo]

10 hours ago, stagedamager said:

there are instances of Kelvins being used in Working boats, Joel had one, and possibly Westminster although that ine is not confirmed. No J or K series i believe.

I have never heard of a Kelvin Diesel model 8J, K,L  or P in a working narrowboat.   I rather suspect that they were a bit too expensive and in the case of the J,K and L the petrol start more than a bit too inconvenient, in that petrol would have to be supplied to the boaters and also the vapour kept away from the cabin stove.  The need for a magneto will not have helped.

 

 Even if the R2 that was built (one example AFAIK) had been marketed if would have been too big and probably too late for commercial carrying.

N

[billh]

12 hours ago, BEngo said:

I have never heard of a Kelvin Diesel model 8J, K,L  or P in a working narrowboat.   I rather suspect that they were a bit too expensive and in the case of the J,K and L the petrol start more than a bit too inconvenient, in that petrol would have to be supplied to the boaters and also the vapour kept away from the cabin stove.  The need for a magneto will not have helped.

 

 Even if the R2 that was built (one example AFAIK) had been marketed if would have been too big and probably too late for commercial carrying.

N

When the J engines came out ,c1933, they were designed to be an easy drop in replacement  for the various petrol/ paraffin models. Users at that time would be quite au fait  with petrol starting and the foibles of damp magnetos. Some Kelvin paraffin engines could be started with  paraffin heating lamps and dispensed with petrol altogether, the lamps being under the vapourizer(s). Straight diesels , rather than Semis, were in their infancy  and ,yes, expensive and complicated , the Kelvin system was designed so that the engine could be started easily by hand  at sea in a gale with no electricity available( apart from  in the magneto!)

It is a mystery to me why the LNE Railway chose a Kelvin E2 for their first motor maintenance boat, possibly they were offered it at a bargain price by Kelvin in an attempt to get into the developing motor NB market? Perhaps by that time, late 1920's. the staff on canal work already knew about paraffin engines used on various items of plant. Anyway that E2 lasted about 20years until Joel was worn out  and replaced by a new Joel  in 1948, this time with a Kelvin F2.

[stagedamager]

Is that the F2 that has now been refitted when the F4 was removed?

[billh]

2 hours ago, stagedamager said:

Is that the F2 that has now been refitted when the F4 was removed?

The same, with some NOS  replacement parts  from Tom (thanks!) and elsewhere. Non original ~(no electrics in 1948) are the CAV starter and AC5 alternator. Original prop yet to be re-fitted.

Great to see Norway coming back  to life, considering you started with  just a pile of scrap wrought iron😄.

[stagedamager]

2 hours ago, billh said:

The same, with some NOS  replacement parts  from Tom (thanks!) and elsewhere. Non original ~(no electrics in 1948) are the CAV starter and AC5 alternator. Original prop yet to be re-fitted.

Great to see Norway coming back  to life, considering you started with  just a pile of scrap wrought iron😄.

great to know it's the same engine! And we're so thankful to you all for the ironwork. and hope you can join us later in the year when we launch!!

[stagedamager]

a lovely day for installation of the propulsion system.

[Ray T]

22 hours ago, stagedamager said:

a lovely day for installation of the propulsion system.

 

"Ramming Speed Oartator."

😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjmbgZ2wZvk

 

Edited April 2, 2025 by Ray T

[stagedamager]

3 hours ago, Ray T said:

 

"Ramming Speed Oartator."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjmbgZ2wZvk

 

A handy training video for getting out at Trent Lock, with a bit of fresh on.........

Thanks Ray!!

[stagedamager]

it's our 2 year anniversary since we laid the baseplate. what a journey and what a difference..... 177 days to launch day.....

[Bee]

Very nice. And all that elegance out of flat plates of steel.

[jacko264]

stagedamager 

you are a artist in metal  and loving all your are doing 

I’m hoping to come and see it around the end of June /  July if that is ok by you   And if all  times works out ok 

Graham

[stagedamager]

should be fine, unless I'm away moving a show, she's visible from the public Footpath if anyone is in the area and fancies a look, just drop me a message and let me know!!!

Edited April 26, 2025 by stagedamager

[stagedamager]

9 hours ago, Bee said:

Very nice. And all that elegance out of flat plates of steel.

aah cheers!

hopefully some of the hull will be painted soon, and the signwriter is due in a couple of months......

[stagedamager]

nearly 1 month further on........ 

we've pretty much sorted the back cabin hull welds and are in the process of leak testing.....

We've been measured for top cloths as they will take a while to make

The signwriter has been out with an anticipated date of early July to write her......

We've tacked the sterngear boss in.....

 

 

I thought about offeringher services to CRT to transport water to much needed areas......

In true wooded boat replica we thought we would see what she looks like with water on the inside too.....

As others have pointed out, sinking on dry land is a special skill.......

 

Kind regards

 

Dan

[matty40s]

It's not rained for 2 months, perhaps you need to transfer your water making skills to the Sahara or Dubai.....

[stagedamager]

I may be biased, and it may not be much but this is the most enjoyable blacking I think I've done! also the white on the cabin but that's not as easy to see! there is the Kelvin owners group gathering at Langley Mill this weekend and Norway will be on show with her K2 on the bank hopefully running. 

[Mike Tee]

That's looking good - can't be far off floating now, do you have a projected launch date? 

[stagedamager]

heading for October. still a bit of welding to do though.....

[stagedamager]

and in full glorious technicolour.... 🤩🤩

[Derek R.]

Persistence and perseverance pays.

[Mike Tee]

Not to mention planning, performance and the other one........

[stagedamager]

Poetry? not the Vogon type i hope!!!