max's son Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I dont think Dad calculated that when he made us stand on the ice at Ashwood back in 62 [/url]">http://http://s1196.photobucket.com/user/outriggerian/media/tractor/img080.jpg.html'> 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Lola Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Marvellous photo Max's son.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertBrooks Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Don't see why anyone who doesn't want to should have to move their boats in the severe part of the winter, any chance of freezing up, or of slipping off icy lock gates should be a genuine safely risk for older or more vunerable people. Those who can't manage should be given free winter moorings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Don't see why anyone who doesn't want to should have to move their boats in the severe part of the winter, Because they knew that is what CCing involved when they signed up for it, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Because they knew that is what CCing involved when they signed up for it, surely. but CRT have published that you shouldnt move in ice and rightly so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 but CRT have published that you shouldnt move in ice and rightly so too. In that case Mr Brooks is wrong and just trying to stir up conflict. And succeeding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) but CRT have published that you shouldnt move in ice and rightly so too. Out of interest, what did they say about it and where? Not a great fan of ice breaking but have certainly done it with fairly thin ice. Did you mean "shouldn't move" or "shouldn't have to move"? Edited January 27, 2017 by nicknorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NilesMI Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I haven't seen anything in writing from CRT saying that boats "shouldn't move" on a frozen canal. The question of whether you "shouldn't have to move" is addressed in the guidelines for boats without a home mooring in the section which interprets "14 days or such longer period as is reasonable in the circumstances", where "impassable ice" is given as one example of such a "reasonable circumstance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Out of interest, what did they say about it and where? Not a great fan of ice breaking but have certainly done it with fairly thin ice. Did you mean "shouldn't move" or "shouldn't have to move"? Ice breakingDon’t cruise if the ice is thick. It’s hard work for your engine and may damage the hull of your craft and others. And of course, never be tempted to walk on the canal when it’s frozen. have a look here https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/boating/navigating-the-waterways-boating/boat-handling/winter-cruising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Ice breaking Don’t cruise if the ice is thick. It’s hard work for your engine and may damage the hull of your craft and others. And of course, never be tempted to walk on the canal when it’s frozen. have a look here https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/boating/navigating-the-waterways-boating/boat-handling/winter-cruising That doesn't mean don't cruise in ice at all though does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 We were surprised yesterday to see how thick the ice now is on the Berkhamsted stretch of the GU. So I'm not surprised today to see an announcement from Phil on coal boat Hyperion that they are stuck at Rickmansworth, having decided it is not currently practical to try and meet their delivery schedule. If the coal boat has now temporarily given up, I suggest most others will have already done so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Won't be for long. Its getting milder today and into the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Won't be for long. Its getting milder today and into the weekend. Dunno! If you had believed the forecasts early this weekend it should have cleared where we have the boats in the Weedon area of the GU (Northamptonshire). Boats were moving for a while, albeit noisily. However despite what the forecasts had said only a day or so previously we then had one of the Coldest nights I have witnessed, and it was well frozen over again by the next day. To my relief, I thought we were going to have to move a boat up to the Northern Oxford this week. I'm glad plans changed, because I would certainly have cried off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 CRT have been known to break ice at Cow Roast in recent years..... Not a bad effort, but they did get rid of something more suitable.... Appears to fetching be blacking off as well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 but CRT have published that you shouldnt move in ice and rightly so too. No they do not say that, what they actually say is that you should not cruise cruise if the ice is thick. What they do not suggest is how thick the ice should be before you remain stationary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magictime Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 any chance of ... slipping off icy lock gates should be a genuine safely risk for older or more vunerable people. I don't see that this sort of thing is anything less than a "genuine safety risk" even for young, fit people. I mean, yes, the risk of serious injury from minor slips/falls is more-or-less negligible for young, fit people, but a fall into an icy canal, or a working lock, is a serious business for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Dunno! If you had believed the forecasts early this weekend it should have cleared where we have the boats in the Weedon area of the GU (Northamptonshire). Boats were moving for a while, albeit noisily. Boats like yours (and ours) don't know any other way! (I'm pleased to say). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) No they do not say that, what they actually say is that you should not cruise cruise if the ice is thick. What they do not suggest is how thick the ice should be before you remain stationary.I've no doubt the NBTA is trying to establish an infringement of human rights if it's more than 1mm thick. Frozen over in Loughborough for the first time this morning !! Edited January 27, 2017 by matty40s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I've no doubt the NBTA is trying to establish an infringement of human rights if it's more than 1mm thick. As much as 1mm? I would have thought if there was a sign of frost on the grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I've no doubt the NBTA is trying to establish an infringement of human rights if it's more than 1mm thick. Frozen over in Loughborough for the first time this morning !! I'd have thought given the risk of falling into a lock and drowning is always present whatever the weather, the NBTA should be campaigning for all movement of boats to be banned permanently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 No ice in stone this morning. Cold wind so glad we don't plan to move today Haggis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) We are at Dutton. Cold, bloomin' cold. Took the dogs for a wonder, round the bend there's ice, very thin ice. Nah! Not moving today. Got back to boat, tucking into porridge and lo and behold, a boat passes us. All to their own I say. We don't 'need' to move,so won't. Water may be an issue in a day or two though. Martyn Edited January 27, 2017 by Nightwatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 1cm ice in Banbury this morning - from completely clear yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Watersnail Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yes, quite icy here at Sovereign Wharf in Banbury. One of our moorers turned a 70' butty around this morning with a lot of ice breaking with a pole! Rather them than me! Just seen a boat go past, so it is clear through Banbury now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceinSanity Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Distinctly milder (5.5°C) here in Mercia now and forecast settled on rising temps (with rain) overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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