Jo Green Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Hello, I was wondering if anyone has had experience of securing finance on an old boat (potentially 100 years old). We have a large deposit which may or may not help. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) It's the same as for most boats, but if a secured loan you'll most likely need a survey (which you should get anyhow for purchasing). If you need less than 25k then a unsecured loan will give you more options to shop around for loans. Edited September 28, 2016 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Hello, I was wondering if anyone has had experience of securing finance on an old boat (potentially 100 years old). We have a large deposit which may or may not help. Thanks There is slightly more to buying an old boat than buying a modern boat. For example, at 100 years old, I'm guessing it's a converted BCN dayboat or "Joey", or Perhaps a converted butty or horseboat These are often wrought iron, rather than steel, and riveted. These can need specialist skills to repair, as not every yard is willing to weld wrought iron. Also, it will cut down on the number of surveyors you can use. The normal ultrasonic thickness testers don't work reliably on wrought iron, because of the internal layers, so the surveyor needs to use more old fashioned methods, like hitting the hull with a ball pein hammer and listening to the echo! Mike Carter and Trevor Whitling are probably the two most spoken-of iron boat surveyors. You may also find that the boat is quite wide. Back when it was built, canals were better maintained, and often boats were built just over 7' wide. Nowadays, several locks have bulged inwards, and modern boats are built to 6'10". If your potential boat has spread with age, or was built wide to start with, you might not be able to get on to some canals, like the Llangollen, or fit through other pinch points. It's worthwhile joining the Historic Narrowboat Club if you're interested in older boats, not only for the research and historical side, but also the expertise which people are very happy to share. Also, a lot of old boats are sold through word of mouth, or advertised only in the club newsletter, so as to be sold to fellow enthusiasts. I'm not trying to put you off- I own an 81 year old iron boat myself- but I just wanted you to be aware that there are additional considerations to buying such an historic thing of beauty, so you can make an informed decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Hello, I was wondering if anyone has had experience of securing finance on an old boat (potentially 100 years old). We have a large deposit which may or may not help. Thanks There is slightly more to buying an old boat than buying a modern boat. For example, at 100 years old, I'm guessing it's a converted BCN dayboat or "Joey", or Perhaps a converted butty or horseboat These are often wrought iron, rather than steel, and riveted. These can need specialist skills to repair, as not every yard is willing to weld wrought iron. Also, it will cut down on the number of surveyors you can use. The normal ultrasonic thickness testers don't work reliably on wrought iron, because of the internal layers, so the surveyor needs to use more old fashioned methods, like hitting the hull with a ball pein hammer and listening to the echo! Mike Carter and Trevor Whitling are probably the two most spoken-of iron boat surveyors. You may also find that the boat is quite wide. Back when it was built, canals were better maintained, and often boats were built just over 7' wide. Nowadays, several locks have bulged inwards, and modern boats are built to 6'10". If your potential boat has spread with age, or was built wide to start with, you might not be able to get on to some canals, like the Llangollen, or fit through other pinch points. It's worthwhile joining the Historic Narrowboat Club if you're interested in older boats, not only for the research and historical side, but also the expertise which people are very happy to share. Also, a lot of old boats are sold through word of mouth, or advertised only in the club newsletter, so as to be sold to fellow enthusiasts. I'm not trying to put you off- I own an 81 year old iron boat myself- but I just wanted you to be aware that there are additional considerations to buying such an historic thing of beauty, so you can make an informed decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Dutch Barge is mentioned in the keywords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Dutch Barge is mentioned in the keywords. Ah, not visible on mobile. I know less about them, but it would probably be worth joining the Dutch Barge Association for more detailed knowledge about reputable surveyors, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 It's worthwhile joining the Historic Narrowboat Club if you're interested in older boats, not only for the research and historical side, but also the expertise which people are very happy to share. Also, a lot of old boats are sold through word of mouth, or advertised only in the club newsletter, so as to be sold to fellow enthusiasts. Surely it is the Historic Narrow Boat Club, and there are other options available when it comes to getting advice and questions of a 'historical' nature - such as this Forum where there are quite a few knowledgeable members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chertsey Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Surely it is the Historic Narrow Boat Club, and there are other options available when it comes to getting advice and questions of a 'historical' nature - such as this Forum where there are quite a few knowledgeable members Spotted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Surely it is the Historic Narrow Boat Club Or I guess it would be the HNC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Surely it is the Historic Narrow Boat Club, and there are other options available when it comes to getting advice and questions of a 'historical' nature - such as this Forum where there are quite a few knowledgeable members Very true, I need to correct my phone's autocorrect, didn't spot that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Dutch Barge is mentioned in the keywords. Definitely Mike Carter then. He's clonked a few with a hammer in his time ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widebeamboy Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Jo you planning on buying one already in the UK or shipping it over Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Dutch Barge is mentioned in the keywords. I used Stefan Fritz when it came to surveying my little dutch boat and would recommend him. - http://www.bowen.co.uk/TheTeam.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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