Polishicebreaker Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Hi, I'm 1 steel boat on shore power. Do I need a Galvanic Isolator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scu8a Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'm on a dutch barge that's constantly connected to shore power. A good electrician friend assured me that one was vital in the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Either a Galvanic Isolator or Isolation Transformer, the IT been the better but considerably more expensive option. People will come along and recommend a decent GI but for a decent IT the Airlink transformer such as the BT3231 is highly recommended here on CWDF. Edit to add link http://www.airlinktransformers.com/search/searchresults/?searchword=Boat Edited July 12, 2016 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Abso-bloomin-lutly you do. Even if someone comes along and argues til they're blue in the face that you don't, the consequences of the risk far outweigh the cost of the precaution. What makes it worse is that if your electrics are perfect and someone else's are dodgy, it's your boat that corrodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Here's a GI vs IT link - http://www.smartgauge.co.uk/galv_tran.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polishicebreaker Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 this ok? http://www.asap-supplies.com/anodes/whisperpower-galvanic-isolation-blockers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I often wonder about these ones http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/70amp-galvanic-isolator-zinc-saver-narrowboat-widebeam-canal-boat-CEregistered-/182202142738 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I often wonder about these ones http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/70amp-galvanic-isolator-zinc-saver-narrowboat-widebeam-canal-boat-CEregistered-/18220214273 Very simple solution and saves you digging around in electrics(or paying someone) to fit one. I would be more concerned that we are all responding to a talking boat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scu8a Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Very simple solution and saves you digging around in electrics(or paying someone) to fit one. I would be more concerned that we are all responding to a talking boat. Grin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggs Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Interesting that the suppliers of GIs linked are taking the P*** with 4 diodes (from RS at £2 each) and a heatsink, box, connectors are sold for nearly as much as an isolation transformer! Is this because they have "marine" written on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Interesting that the suppliers of GIs linked are taking the P*** with 4 diodes (from RS at £2 each) and a heatsink, box, connectors are sold for nearly as much as an isolation transformer! Is this because they have "marine" written on them? No, it is because the diodes aren't £2 each. Do you know what the peak current rating if the diodes is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Interesting that the suppliers of GIs linked are taking the P*** with 4 diodes (from RS at £2 each) and a heatsink, box, connectors are sold for nearly as much as an isolation transformer! Is this because they have "marine" written on them? Here we go again. Check out the ABYC specification for a GI and tell us all how you'd achieve that with a two quid diode from RS. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pquinn Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 If you had both would there be any advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 If you had both would there be any advantage? Only to the retailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 If you had both would there be any advantage? Yes, when the diodes fail on the Gi the transformer will still be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Yes, when the diodes fail on the Gi the transformer will still be working. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pquinn Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Well slap my ass and call me Betsy!! Who ever could have forseen such hilarity being derived from the failure of diodes in galvanic isolators. Brilliant https://sc.mogicons.com/c/299.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 If you had both would there be any advantage? Further to Brian's answer. The IT will also stay working in the event of a shore-side earth fault such as a recent poster probably suffered from when so got a shock from the hull (boat out of the water) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Further to Brian's answer. The IT will also stay working in the event of a shore-side earth fault such as a recent poster probably suffered from when so got a shock from the hull (boat out of the water) Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 With the IT It also doesn't matter if L and N are reversed on the shore side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 With the IT It also doesn't matter if L and N are reversed on the shore side. Also true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Either a Galvanic Isolator or Isolation Transformer, the IT been the better but considerably more expensive option. People will come along and recommend a decent GI but for a decent IT the Airlink transformer such as the BT3231 is highly recommended here on CWDF. Edit to add link http://www.airlinktransformers.com/search/searchresults/?searchword=Boat So can you customise these with a standard blue plug and socket and end up with something that could be moved between boats if required? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 So can you customise these with a standard blue plug and socket and end up with something that could be moved between boats if required? Absolutely. As supplied they're just a transformer in a plastic case. The advantage of the plastic case is that it can sit on the counter. Sadly these days it'd probably have to be chained to the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) So can you customise these with a standard blue plug and socket and end up with something that could be moved between boats if required?Confirmed, the plastic case hasn't been predrilled for cables or sockets so you can custom and still keep water tight. (Mine was the 3600va one, the 1600va ones look like they have cable glands already fitted) They also do metal case ones for a more permanent installation. Edited July 14, 2016 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 They also do metal case ones for a more permanent installation. Which you really don't want to use on a boat. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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