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No cure for that - the sound of Merlins and Griffons is addictive!

A few years ago I went to the Petwood Hotel near Coningsby and heard Merlins! Through the trees I spotted the Lancaster, it came around and flew up the drive at a very low level. The Petwood was the mess for the Dam Busters in the war. My colleague and I told the receptionist how impressed we were with reception but she looked at us a little blankly. The old Dam Busters bar was full of old Dam Busters as far as I could tell they all had loads of medals. Later that evening I was having dinner with an RAF officer and told him about the Lancaster. His response was 'I know I was flying it!' I have to admit to a pretty pathetic few minutes of grovelling, can I go in the Lanc? Sorry was the reply! Cheers Graham

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We had a brilliant day a few years ago when sailing the Mirror at Southport. It just happened to be the day of the airshow, and we dropped the sail and watched it for free :)

The Lancaster with its Spitfire/Hurricane (is that correct?) escorts fair made my remaining hair stand on end. So did the jump jet when it "bowed" to the crowd. Don't know much about planes old or new, but that was a treat.

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The Lancaster with its Spitfire/Hurricane (is that correct?) escorts.....

 

Yes as a rule....However, for a while they were both Spitfires as the BBMF's Hurricane crashed on September 11th 1991, during a flight from Coningsby to Jersey, she suffered engine trouble and crash-landed at RAF Wittering. After a 6 year rebuild, she took to the air again in the autumn of 1998. How time flies, I didn't think it was that long ago.....

 

No cure for that - the sound of Merlins and Griffons is addictive!

 

Here you go....Merlin

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I believe they also have a Dakota.... :captain:

 

They do - and a couple of chipmunks for tail dragger training - not cruel to furry animals - honest!

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Just a thought, since there seems to be a fair few aircraft lovers on here.

If you could bring just one aircraft back from the dead and see it fly, what would it be? This could be a type of which there is no flying example (ie Ju 87)

or one that is totally extinct with not even a static example in existance (ie Short Stirling).

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It'd be the Sunderland for me - don't think any are still airworthy, but would love to hear to the contrary.

Or Concorde, surely the most graceful aircraft ever?

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Nice plane!

 

Is anyone doing this with Spitfires or Hurricanes? I'm sure, though I may well be imagining this, that I once saw a modern replica of a Spit.

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There are umpteen home build kits for half scale spitfires, mustangs etc. One chap did build a full size replica of the prototype spitfire out of wood powered by a jaguar V12.

I have read about the new build Me262s, there are also Fw 190s. I have a rather unpopular view of these. They are claimed, by virtue of being built to original drawings to be the real thing. I cannot accept this for these reasons.

Wrong engines, the 262 has lear jet engines, the 190 pratt& whitney. If these are "the real thing" then a Hispano Buchon is a genuine Me190.

Wrong purpose, the originals were fighters, designed to be flown in ernest against a dangerous enemy. The new ones are millionaires toys.

Wrong time, in the FAA museum there is a Fairey Flycatcher, like these other repro's it was built from original drawings but also has an original Bristol Jupiter engine and, the best provenance of all, it was built for John Fairey. Niether the museum nor John Fairey himself claims it is anything other than a replica.

 

It'd be the Sunderland for me -

Seen it! Some years ago the last one flying (actually a Sandringham, a de militarised Sunderland used by BOAC on the empire routes) was flown into Calshot so I went to watch. It then spent a few years on beaching gear just inside what used to be RNAS Lee on Solent with the tail stuck out over the road. Now in the "Solent skies" museum in Southampton.

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Seen it! Some years ago the last one flying (actually a Sandringham, a de militarised Sunderland used by BOAC on the empire routes) was flown into Calshot so I went to watch. It then spent a few years on beaching gear just inside what used to be RNAS Lee on Solent with the tail stuck out over the road. Now in the "Solent skies" museum in Southampton.

 

Kermit Weeks has the last flying Sunderland at Fantasy of Flight in Florida. It has not flown for some time but buiding a seaplane base is part of his ambitious plans. He will then be able to fly it again.

 

http://www.fantasyofflight.com/

 

And the Sunderland

 

http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/sunderland.htm

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Sorry, my mistake. I believe Kermit Weeks also has a tempest under restoration to fly. Now that I would like to see, or more to the point hear. What must a 24cyl sleeve valve motor sound like!?

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Sorry, my mistake. I believe Kermit Weeks also has a tempest under restoration to fly. Now that I would like to see, or more to the point hear. What must a 24cyl sleeve valve motor sound like!?

 

There is his Tempest that is often wheeled out at sun and fun at lakeland each year. I saw it a few years ago but it is on the list of aircraft to be restored. The list is impressive and even includes a Lancaster!

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Just a thought, since there seems to be a fair few aircraft lovers on here.

If you could bring just one aircraft back from the dead and see it fly, what would it be? This could be a type of which there is no flying example (ie Ju 87)

or one that is totally extinct with not even a static example in existance (ie Short Stirling).

 

 

de Havilland Mosquito.

 

And just thinking out loud.....

 

Concord

 

 

How about that as Tony Blair's legacy...

 

Whem he becam PM you could get to New York in thee hours twenty minutes.

 

It now takes seven hours?

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It'd be the Sunderland for me - don't think any are still airworthy, but would love to hear to the contrary.

Or Concorde, surely the most graceful aircraft ever?

 

 

Ah yes, the Sunderland, featured in the Biggles South Atlantic classic whos name I cannot remember

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I have just had my work disturbed by the whistling roar of a Sea Fury cavorting over the naval dockyard. It's so nice to see the old things enjoying themselves isn't it.

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I have just had my work disturbed by the whistling roar of a Sea Fury cavorting over the naval dockyard. It's so nice to see the old things enjoying themselves isn't it.

 

That was for Henry Allingham who is 111 today! Happy Birthaday. He had a fly past then lunch on HMS Victory.

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Thank you Billw for the info. I thought she'd gone abroad. Strange that the owners are in my local area, but I haven't seen her anywhere since ( consults log book ) 31.7.77 when I landed her at Humberside Airport. I didn't know then that I was walking away from her for the last time! :)

 

Dick

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