More Liquidation for Wilson covers

[Ray tired]

Well it looks like another company has bit the dust.

 

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2469607

 

Source: The London Gazette

[peterboat]

i thought they went under last year

[jenlyn]

Does not surprise me. They have never finished my pram hood, and the cratch cover never even arrived.

[bottle]

Welcome to the forum, strange first post.

 

This is not the first time for this company or should I say its previous guises.

i thought they went under last year

 

No I think that was Wilson's this is their new company Wilson's Covers.

Edited January 30, 2016 by bottle

[Ray tired]

Thanks 'Bottle'

 

Not such a strange a first post. I've had dealings with them and am quite happy they have stopped trading. For how long we'll see.

 

I only posted just to let people know. I hate rouge operators as I've have had a very close friend forced into bankruptcy by companies wrapping up on him whilst still owing him a fortune then begin trading a few weeks later under another name . Its wrong and unfair.

 

I only hope this time they prove themselves to be above that.

 

Rant over.

 

Enjoy your weekend.

[pete.i]

I bought a cover from them a few years ago when they were Wilson's of Kinver. It was very good and is still going strong although I no longer own the boat. Not long after that they suffered their first demise I believe.

[Barge Maria]

Sadly they seem to be a serial phoenix company, which should be banned under corporate law.

 

It's a shame as in my experience the quality of their goods was high. Others may, however, have different experiences

Edited January 30, 2016 by Barge Maria

[Cheshire cat]

Is the chair company different to the cover company?

[tillergirl]

Still advertising in Januarys TT

[Ange]

My understanding is that the original company was Wilson's of Kinver. When they went belly up their employees started Kinver Canopies which as far as I know has a great reputation.

 

I wasn't aware of this Phoenix company (if it is)

 

My interest in this is that we have an order with Kinver Canopies for a new cratch cover that'll set us back the best part of £1000 - as things stand I'm happy that they are completely separate from Wilson's but any additional info would be appreciated.

[Guest]

My understanding is that the original company was Wilson's of Kinver. When they went belly up their employees started Kinver Canopies which as far as I know has a great reputation.

I wasn't aware of this Phoenix company (if it is)

My interest in this is that we have an order with Kinver Canopies for a new cratch cover that'll set us back the best part of £1000 - as things stand I'm happy that they are completely separate from Wilson's but any additional info would be appreciated.

Kinver Canopies are of course forum members.

 

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showuser=13897

 

Perhaps they might respond?

[Boat&Bikes]

My understanding is that the original company was Wilson's of Kinver. When they went belly up their employees started Kinver Canopies which as far as I know has a great reputation.

I wasn't aware of this Phoenix company (if it is)

My interest in this is that we have an order with Kinver Canopies for a new cratch cover that'll set us back the best part of £1000 - as things stand I'm happy that they are completely separate from Wilson's but any additional info would be appreciated.

Popping Kinver canopies into my credit check advises that no credit should be given to them...

 

Ian.

[David Mack]

Kinver Canopies was formed by a couple of ex-employees of Wilsons, when the latter went belly-up last time. As far as I know there is no connection (other than the historical one) between the two now. Certainly they trade from difference addresses.

[cloggy]

My understanding is that the original company was Wilson's of Kinver. When they went belly up their employees started Kinver Canopies which as far as I know has a great reputation.

I wasn't aware of this Phoenix company (if it is)

My interest in this is that we have an order with Kinver Canopies for a new cratch cover that'll set us back the best part of £1000 - as things stand I'm happy that they are completely separate from Wilson's but any additional info would be appreciated.

Have you parted with any money yet

Looking at Kinver Canopies Facebook they seem to be expanding their work force. Good sign

[Ange]

Have you parted with any money yet

No. They've come out to us and measured up but not asked for a deposit. As far as I know we pay the money when they've done the job

My impression is that these are guys who know what they're doing but aren't particularly business savvy.

[Boat&Bikes]

Have you parted with any money yetLooking at Kinver Canopies Facebook they seem to be expanding their work force. Good sign

Expanding a workforce is not always a good sign...just saying..

 

Ian.

[Guest]

No. They've come out to us and measured up but not asked for a deposit. As far as I know we pay the money when they've done the job

If correct then I wouldn't hesitate to deal with them.

 

Every company I have dealt with that worked on that basis has never let me down, including one that built us a conservatory at home. They didn't take a penny until we said we were happy.

[Ange]

Our communications from them have fallen way short of the professionalism I'd expect from a company were planning to chuck £1000 of our hard earned money at ...

 

But often the professionalism comes from the folks that are going to rip you off.

 

I have a bit instinct about these guys

If correct then I wouldn't hesitate to deal with them.

Every company I have dealt with that worked on that basis has never let me down, including one that built us a conservatory at home. They didn't take a penny until we said we were happy.

Agreed - my thoughts are that these guys have messed up on their paperwork and not paid some bills because they're too busy making and mending canopies.

 

Maybe I should apply for a job

Edited January 30, 2016 by Ange

[Boat&Bikes]

Our communications from them have fallen way short of the professionalism I'd expect from a company were planning to chuck £1000 of our hard earned money at ...

But often the professionalism comes from the folks that are going to rip you off.

I have a bit instinct about these guys

 

Agreed - my thoughts are that these guys have messed up on their paperwork and not paid some bills because they're too busy making and mending canopies.

Maybe I should apply for a job

Yes I'd say your right about that. It is a shame so many companies with good skills and intent fail due to a lack paperwork skills.

 

Ian.

[Guest]

Our communications from them have fallen way short of the professionalism I'd expect from a company were planning to chuck £1000 of our hard earned money at ...

But often the professionalism comes from the folks that are going to rip you off.

I have a bit instinct about these guys

I think from memory it was these same guys that did a small repair on our rear canvas cover.

 

I emailed them a pic. of what was needed and they quoted me a price which I was happy with. I posted it to them and they fixed it after a couple of weeks. They returned it and it had been done to a very good standard.

 

I asked them to confirm the cost so I could pay them. They said they would invoice me by email, so I waited. After a few weeks I emailed them again and pointed out they hadn't invoiced me or details of how to pay so they said not to worry they would get onto it and send me an invoice.

 

That was probably about two and a half years ago now and I'm still waiting!

[Ange]

Yes I'd say your right about that. It is a shame so many companies with good skills and intent fail due to a lack paperwork skills.

Ian.

I think from memory it was these same guys that did a small repair on our rear canvas cover.

I emailed them a pic. of what was needed and they quoted me a price which I was happy with. I posted it to them and they fixed it after a couple of weeks. They returned it and it had been done to a very good standard.

I asked them to confirm the cost so I could pay them. They said they would invoice me by email, so I waited. After a few weeks I emailed them again and pointed out they hadn't invoiced me or details of how to pay so they said not to worry they would get onto it and send me an invoice.

That was probably about two and a half years ago now and I'm still waiting!

My father in law ran a fencing business and I tore my hair out at the lack of debtor chasing, creditor control. I did spend a bit of time trying to set out the bookkeeping but when you're dealing with folks who get their hands dirty doing the work its incredibility difficult persuading them that when they take a tenner, legitimately, out of the petty cash tin they have to first leave an IOU then come back with a receipt and what they've spent it on.

To be clear I consider my clean accountants hands infinitely inferior to those with a manual skill. I can help their business but my skill only kicks in once someone has got their hands dirty

[BruceinSanity]

Is the chair company different to the cover company?

Yes, there are three companies post the demise of Wilson's of Kinver. Old man Wilson still has the chair company, then there's Kinver Canopies and this one that's just died.

[bottle]

Bruce

 

Do you know something that no one else knows, Kinver Canopies as far as most of us know is a company set up by ex employees of Wilson and is not connected in anyway whatsoever.

[Sea Dog]

 

My father in law ran a fencing business and I tore my hair out at the lack of debtor chasing, creditor control. I did spend a bit of time trying to set out the bookkeeping but when you're dealing with folks who get their hands dirty doing the work its incredibility difficult persuading them that when they take a tenner, legitimately, out of the petty cash tin they have to first leave an IOU then come back with a receipt and what they've spent it on.

To be clear I consider my clean accountants hands infinitely inferior to those with a manual skill. I can help their business but my skill only kicks in once someone has got their hands dirty

Nicely put Ange!

[Kinver Canopies]

Hi, All

 

Just to let you know... ALL IS FINE HERE

 

We have also spoken to one of the Guys who works/worked for Wilsons and he has confirmed that they are folding and has been told this time they may well be out of the business for good. ( but wait and see)

 

 

Having a quick read through the posts and you are quite right. We have lapsed in getting back to people due to the work load we have on..

 

At the current moment in time we are training 'Sue' in all aspects of the job before moving her full time into the office. This is to give people confidence when they phone up that they can talk to someone with knowledge about the product instead of a glorified answer phone.

 

We have two new guys who will also be shadowing Scott and myself for a couple of years before we let them out there on their own.

 

To learn the skills required (to our standards) takes time.

 

Whilst this is happening there is of course a transition period. So slowly but surely we will be improving our communication as we will have more time to spare.

 

Our apologies to anyone who has been let done slightly but we do endeavour to make everyone happy in the end.

 

We are a very truthful, proud and up front company with nothing to hide.

 

NOW

 

 

"Popping Kinver canopies into my credit check advises that no credit should be given to them..."

We don't have credit on any of our goods. we started with nothing and purchased our first roll of material on my credit card then paid it off straight away.

 

As soon as we could afford to buy stock we did... we owe nothing. We pay as we order. Thus we may not have a super credit score. Our suppliers do offer it but we say no thanks.

 

 

1. You can sleep better at night

2. What's yours is yours.

3. If the worst case did every happen. we would be happy in the knowledge that we haven't let anyone suffer due to our lose. ( but I hope that day never comes).

 

 

Hope that clears it all up. We really look forward to seeing you all at crick as we had great fun last year (Where we'll have balloons, pens,ipad pointers and beer to give away).

 

Ange, we'll call you tomorrow

MJG, It's on the house

 

Happy Sunday all.