building nbs

[Timx]

Dear NB builders,

Stop making narrow boats with a middle[ or anywhere] open plan walk through toilet, I wanna spend a few bob on a newish boat 57 to 60 and they are so popular in builds, but so user unfriendly if u don't boat alone. NB s have been going yrs without this pop design, first I hired in early 80s had that type but side shutter used just for showering wet room type, why have a bog in middle of boat open, how many times have you needed to walk through middle. It must be a man design without a woman

First thing I look at now is walk through toilet/shower, then dismiss that boat,grrr.

I have wanted to spend 80 k on a boat for a yr now, and not seen more than one in all that time, I will look another yr then give up on higher spec/ newish

I want a 57 to 60ft

Within last four yrs build

Pumpout toilet

No L shaped seating

Reverse layout-galley,pullman-toilet/ showr-bedroom-living area

There isn't any new ish of that design.

That's b4 heating engine electrics water etc

Seems obvious to me but so few on sale

[Suzie_q]

You have almost described Suzie_q but for a few differences. (Not pump out, layout has lounge at stern) but I agree they are hard to find.

We saw one other before we commissioned Suzie_q, which is now AlanJ of this forums boat. Suzie_q wasn't 80k new but as the builder has now gone bust that may explain the price!!

Keep looking they are out there.

Kev.

[Phil Ambrose]

Never seen the point of walk- through shower/toilet. Our heads contain toilet, great size wash basin and a huge shower cubicle, all behind closed door. I think it has just become "Trendy" a bit like houses, just what do people need with a huge amount of space in there given they are just having a dump, washing or taking a shower, none of which requires a lot of room.

Phil

[Markinaboat]

With that budget, you could easily have the layout changed of virtually any boat by inserting a bulk head (wall) and moving the plumbing connections and sanitary ware to one side.

[Paul C]

I reckon its done because a bathroom with corridor to the side is necessarily smaller than a walk through, so the extra space makes it more "luxury" - but without the practicality. Have a close look at the boats like this, if its plumbed in items are all to one side then it will be cheaper to convert it to a bathroom with corridor.

[Athy]

Tim, your rather singular requirements may be severely restricting the choice of boats available to you. A more flexible approach may pay dividends.

[bizzard]

Maybe there's examples to peruse on Loo-tube. Or one might even be located with that latest electronic gizmo called ''Sat-Lav''.

Edited April 23, 2015 by bizzard

[Phil Ambrose]

Maybe there's examples to peruse on Loo-tube. Or one might even be located with that latest electronic gizmo called ''Sat-Lav''.

At my age Sat-Lav would be very useful.

Phil

[David Schweizer]

Our boat, which was built in 1982, has a walk through toilet/shower bathroom. However it is cleverly designed with two corridor doors which can be fixed open or shut, meaning that you can either have a spacious full width bathroom, or a fairly narrow (but usable) toilet and sink, closed off from the corridor alongside. The shower, which has a curtain, could also be used with the corridor still accesible, but getting out to dry off could be "interesting".

Edited April 23, 2015 by David Schweizer

[bizzard]

At my age Sat-Lav would be very useful.

Phil

And mine Phil. It could have all the toilets and sanitary stations throughout the country or indeed the whole world loaded on it to guide you to happy relief. You'd never get taken short again. Perhaps there's a Sat-Lav add-on for the Sat-Nav's available.

[OldGoat]

Once-upon-a-time boats were built with practicality in mind - that is, designing what the 'industry' felt was possible with the scale of the vessel in mind and what equipment was available.

 

Them-as-knew boating generally accepted the position and bought what was on offer.

 

Then when the customer base moved from "can we have something better than camping", to "I want what we have at home - or I'll walk away". That's more common now as many (?) folks really want a country cottage retreat for the weekends - but without the cost.

So builders have moved away from the manky shower tray with clammy curtain to full blown shower cubicle. Therein lies the problem, a cubicle just won't fit anywhere but in the full height of the centre line. Thus a walk through bathroom. Simples.

Much the same argument applies to high power demanding appliances - electric cookers, washer dryers and fridges / freezers.

If you want all these devices then something's got to give.

 

The shortage of practical boats is due to the customer wanting all the features above. After all the boat's not going to move far from the mooring or not for long periods.

[Athy]

And mine Phil. It could have all the toilets and sanitary stations throughout the country or indeed the whole world loaded on it to guide you to happy relief. You'd never get taken short again. Perhaps there's a Sat-Lav add-on for the Sat-Nav's available.

You do talk some crap. Have a greeno.

[bizzard]

You do talk some crap. Have a greeno.

Crap indeed! It's pooetry in motion. Thanks.

Edited April 23, 2015 by bizzard

[Ally]

Some are still built with a "corridor" bathroom. Our very last boat had one, as did one of our others. We found however that the majority wanted the walk through style as it saves linear space overall, and they felt the corridor was wasted space too, though when we did do that style, we utilised the corridor space for under gunwale storage usually.

They are out there, but mostly with traditional layout I would expect.

[Lysander]

We have an Aqualine Madison with almost the exact layout you are looking for - galley, dinette (ours is L-shaped but pullmans are available), saloon, bathroom off corridor (pump-out loo), bedroom.

Maybe worth looking at the Aqualine range.

[bottle]

but one entrance is in the middle and the other at the side, well mine is anyway.

[scrabble]

Ive noticed this naff idea on a lot of new boats, just as hard trying to find an older boat with reverse layout