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I wonder if a smoke alarm and CO detector would have saved his life?

 

Very sad

 

This is another very sad incident and the second fatal boat fire this year.

 

Over thirty people have died in boat fires in the past 20 years.

 

I joined the Boat Safety Scheme in 2002, and aside from fatal gas/petrol explosions, I can only remember two fatal boat fires where a working smoke alarm is unlikely to have had any impact.

 

So for the vast majority of fatal and serious fires, a working smoke alarm would have probably altered the outcome.

 

You can read Akula's account of how a smoke alarm helped him LINKY, so I make a plea from the heart, especially to all liveabaords

a. fit a certified smoke alarm

b. ensure you can hear it in all quarters of the boat, if not fit more than one.

c. test it routinely

d. never take the batteries out, unless it to replace them

e. check and replace any smoke alarms that have past their 'Replace By' date.

 

It will take some time to find out the cause, speculation so early into the event is usually fruitless and sometimes counter-productive.

 

In that area of the K&A the boating community is usually tight-knit and this will likely be a shocking event. Certainly my thoughts are with the people affected, including neighbouring boaters, friends, family and the blue light service personnel attending the scene.

 

Wiltshire Fire & Rescue Service like many others offers a boat fire risk check service, giving out smoke and CO alarms. We recommend that boaters check with their local brigades and see if there is such a service in their locality.

 

We have lots of general boat fire safety advice including what to look for in a alarm and where to position the alarm given the usual compromises that have to be made on a boat regarding specific placement instructions. We worked with the smoke alarm manufacturers to develop this boat specific advice. Got to www.boatsafetyscheme.org/fire

 

Keep safe

Rob

 

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This is another very sad incident and the second fatal boat fire this year.

 

Over thirty people have died in boat fires in the past 20 years.

 

I joined the Boat Safety Scheme in 2002, and aside from fatal gas/petrol explosions, I can only remember two fatal boat fires where a working smoke alarm is unlikely to have had any impact.

 

Keep safe

Rob

 

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Why aren't fire and CO detectors on the BSS? It seems they should be.

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So frightening !!!

 

how and why are questions and answers we all like to know.

 

How can this happen now days

 

Just checked all our alarms

 

Deepest sympathy to all family and freinds

 

 

Colin and sharon

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To give all due respect to family and friends, perhaps we should wait for some facts before indulging in fantasy and speculation which helps nobody?

Yes.

That said, IF Sue B's report is to be believed, that was an accident waiting to happen.

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I want a smoke alarm that I can turn off when I leave the boat. I have had a lot of grief with defective alarms of various sorts upsetting neighbours. Ok, you must remember to turn them on when joining the boat but I have checklist for that anyway.

Surely just removing the batteries will silence it?

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Why aren't fire and CO detectors on the BSS? It seems they should be.

 

There are many things that could/should be part of the BSS. Even the stuff that is on there, most of seems to be advisory

 

My interpretation of the BSS is that it's not to protect the boat and occupant, it's to protect other (innocent) third parties and property. If you want to put yourself at risk on your own boat, as long as you don't have the potential to hurt others..... go ahead

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There are many things that could/should be part of the BSS. Even the stuff that is on there, most of seems to be advisory

 

My interpretation of the BSS is that it's not to protect the boat and occupant, it's to protect other (innocent) third parties and property. If you want to put yourself at risk on your own boat, as long as you don't have the potential to hurt others..... go ahead

Some boaters use their boat in a way that would contravene the BSS. It's not uncommon to see gas bottles, petrol generators and fuel cans on the back deck of boats. Think of members of the fire service who may risk their own lives because of stupid behaviour. Surely it should be a matter of pride to ensure that your boat and car are safe and would pass a test on any day of the year.

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Some boaters use their boat in a way that would contravene the BSS. It's not uncommon to see gas bottles, petrol generators and fuel cans on the back deck of boats. Think of members of the fire service who may risk their own lives because of stupid behaviour. Surely it should be a matter of pride to ensure that your boat and car are safe and would pass a test on any day of the year.

As I understand it your not contravening the bss by having a generator , petrol can or gas bottles on your back deck. If secured properly.

Regards kris

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Sad to hear this R.I.P. It's a shame that Wiltshire.co.uk 'reporter' seems to have got it so badly wrong, the tag headline is one man unaccounted for, then later she writes that the dog was unaccounted for, even though a dog was also found dead in the boat. ohmy.png(

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Some boaters use their boat in a way that would contravene the BSS. It's not uncommon to see gas bottles, petrol generators and fuel cans on the back deck of boats. Think of members of the fire service who may risk their own lives because of stupid behaviour. Surely it should be a matter of pride to ensure that your boat and car are safe and would pass a test on any day of the year.

Perhaps your sensitive and delicate comments (given the tragic circumstances) might be better off on their own thread.

 

If you have information about the way this boat was kept, please share that with the coroner and not have the rudeness to make such baseless allegations in a thread of this sort.

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Perhaps your sensitive and delicate comments (given the tragic circumstances) might be better off on their own thread.

 

If you have information about the way this boat was kept, please share that with the coroner and not have the rudeness to make such baseless allegations in a thread of this sort.

My comments were on a post made by Proper Job and I have made no allegations whatsoever. I don't know the boat or owner.

 

I agree the points may have been better made in another thread but the same could have been said about comments about smoke and carbon monoxide alarms.

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My comments were on a post made by Proper Job and I have made no allegations whatsoever. I don't know the boat or owner.

 

I agree the points may have been better made in another thread but the same could have been said about comments about smoke and carbon monoxide alarms.

He may have had an alarm, does the report say there wasn't one. He may have tried to put the fire out. I wont go into the other may's as it will upset some of our readers.

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