Newt Relocation Licence Refused - Montgomery Canal

[Alan de Enfield]

Grant funding has been obtained to restore the next 50m stretch beyond Pryce’s Bridge by volunteers of the Shropshire Union Canal Society, supported by the Canal & River Trust (CRT).

 

The CRT has been waiting several months for a decision from Natural England (NE) on a licence application to relocate newts from this section. NE has finally advised that it is intending to reject the application. -

 

Source :-

http://www.boatingbusiness.com/news101/industry-news/newts-delay-montgomery-restoration2#sthash.FLBJFHBl.dpuf

[TaffyRon]

Great crested newts stop any construction work, unless the council need to build flats......

[madcat]

Newt rustling anybody. Drive by newt relocation. HS2 brought to a halt by sudden influx of newts.

 

To be honest I think it's mad. Newts may be endangered but a relocation could give them a better chance of expanding their range.

[Chalky]

This was on the news earlier about a fungus that affects newts and is spread by contact. It could be what prompted the decision.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29831384

[casper ghost]

I don't hold much hope for this canal, They started it when I was just a kid and i'll be dead before they finish.

Casp'

[TaffyRon]

Newt rustling anybody. Drive by newt relocation. HS2 brought to a halt by sudden influx of newts.

To be honest I think it's mad. Newts may be endangered but a relocation could give them a better chance of expanding their range.

 

has hs2 been abandoned then?......

[mayalld]

Grant funding has been obtained to restore the next 50m stretch beyond Pryce’s Bridge by volunteers of the Shropshire Union Canal Society, supported by the Canal & River Trust (CRT).

 

The CRT has been waiting several months for a decision from Natural England (NE) on a licence application to relocate newts from this section. NE has finally advised that it is intending to reject the application. -

 

Source :-

http://www.boatingbusiness.com/news101/industry-news/newts-delay-montgomery-restoration2#sthash.FLBJFHBl.dpuf

 

[Natural England] has asked CRT ... to revisit the application to provide more information on the proposals including details of newt compensation

 

The world has gone mad!

[casper ghost]

It's just people with no real job, making work for each other to justify their existence and, probably, overly high wages..

Casp'

[TaffyRon]

Compensation to newts?! If only newts were clever enough to invest that compo in a nice pond and build it in camerons living room

[Jerra]

My reading of the article linked above suggests things aren't as bleak as you all seem to assume. For the following reasons.

 

1. Asking them to revisit the application giving more details wouldn't be invited if they had made their mien up that there was no way things could be sorted out.

 

2. This "compensation" you are all getting so hot under the collar about is actually compensation habitat. so no money for the newts to invest but perhaps some changes in land management either along/near the canal or perhaps at the place they intend to relocate the newts to, That isn't made clear in the article,

 

The 130 days instead of 30 may be due to time taken working out some suggestions for how CRT should proceed to be able to get a license. Remember it is a news article and facts should never get in the way of a good story.

 

Why do so many people want to knock an organisation or person without looking at both sides and getting all the facts.

[matty40s]

 

 

Why do so many people want to knock an organisation or person without looking at both sides and getting all the facts.

because there's newt worse than unlicenced continuously moored newts that have newt better to do than go newtwhere else.

Edited October 31, 2014 by matty40s

[Jerra]

[Pie Eater]

Quite a lot of time over recent months has been spent by the Shropshire Union Canal Society volunteers in erecting newt fences before they can carry on with any further restoration.

 

Steve

[DHutch]

I think its important not to just screw over the country side and habits, but this does seem a bit misplaced.

[TaffyRon]

I think its important not to just screw over the country side and habits, but this does seem a bit misplaced.

authorities seem to be intent on screwing over the countryside, when the monty has long silted up they will build flats right over the sludge newts or not, its disgusting what they will AND WONT do to our countryside

[cereal tiller]

Grant funding has been obtained to restore the next 50m stretch beyond Pryce’s Bridge by volunteers of the Shropshire Union Canal Society, supported by the Canal & River Trust (CRT).

 

The CRT has been waiting several months for a decision from Natural England (NE) on a licence application to relocate newts from this section. NE has finally advised that it is intending to reject the application. -

 

Source :-

http://www.boatingbusiness.com/news101/industry-news/newts-delay-montgomery-restoration2#sthash.FLBJFHBl.dpuf

I cant fully comprehend this topic,

 

However,if it were retitled NEWTS REFUSED VICTUALLERS LICENCE,.it would be more valid?

 

We all know their insatiable requirement for intoxication!

 

CT

[TaffyRon]

I think the newts should licence their lilly pads or lose them, come on crt lets move on these over staying newts, 14 days

[Alan de Enfield]

Some years ago, when we lived in Wales, some local 'tree-huggers' decided they wanted to stop a planning application so they got hold of a 'footprint' of an otter, there was a stream running alongside the land subject to the planning applcation and they thought a few "otter prints" would stop the application.

 

They got away with it for some time until :

 

Someone pointed out that not only did the Otter have a 3 foot stride but it had 4 front feet and all of them were the front right foot.

 

 

 

We had a Badger sett on the farm and somehow the 'news' got out - we had an almost non-stop stream ,of trespassers breaking down the fences, we subsequently had horses get out and run free on the road because of it. After complainng to the Police it turned out that the local 'badger watch' had carte-blanche Government permission to access any land which was known to have Badgers on it - they visited the Sett every week to make sure we had not killed or dug the Badgers - they were the worst lot for breaking down the fences.

 

I respect the countryside, but it is better managed by the likes of Gamekeepers than it is by Tree-Huggers

Edited October 31, 2014 by Alan de Enfield

[mark99]

We have just designed a new gas pipeline below a new "newt crossing". A bespoke highway for newts. You think it's a joke. Nope.

[MtB]

These ultra-rare, endangered, great crested newts seem to pop up constantly all over the place. Everywhere there is a controversial building project.

 

They almost seem to have taken over from Sites of Special Scientific Interest as a reason to prevent everything.

 

MtB

[Ray T]

Do the newts look anything like this?

 

[mark99]

These ultra-rare, endangered, great crested newts seem to pop up constantly all over the place. Everywhere there is a controversial building project.

 

They almost seem to have taken over from Sites of Special Scientific Interest as a reason to prevent everything.

 

MtB

 

 

It's almost like the wholsesale destruction of just about everything on earth is beyond human comprehension so all efforts are concentrated upon - bats, badgers, nesting birds and newts......... so if a newt is saved at a cost of £100K it's held up as how caring and prioritised we all really are whilst 100 trees are felling in the printing of the saved newt story and more emmissions are created in later years in the recouping of the £100K lost on mr newt.

Edited October 31, 2014 by mark99

[Jerra]

I respect the countryside, but it is better managed by the likes of Gamekeepers

Yeah they do fine job they have managed to keep the UK population of Hen Harriers down to 4 nesting pairs.

 

They are managing the country really well and with great respect.

[Alan de Enfield]

Yeah they do fine job they have managed to keep the UK population of Hen Harriers down to 4 nesting pairs.

 

They are managing the country really well and with great respect.

 

You must have been reading the Daily Mail - you should try the RSPB and Conservancy reports instead :

 

"According to the RSPB there are 646 pairs of hen harriers in the UK, and many can be seen moving around the country throughout the year. We are not about to see the last hen harrier in England".

 

"Moorland managed for grouse shooting also only accounts for around one-fifth of the uplands of England and Wales, yet the breeding success of hen harriers on the remaining four-fifths, which includes land managed by the RSPB, has been no better.

"Who is to blame there, as it cannot be grouse moor managers?"

 

Research by the Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust (GWCT) found that controlling predators like foxes and crows to protect red grouse on moorland helped birds of prey, including hen harriers.

[MtB]

 

 

It's almost like the wholsesale destruction of just about everything on earth is beyond human comprehension so all efforts are concentrated upon - bats, badgers, nesting birds and newts......... so if a newt is saved at a cost of £100K it's held up as how caring and prioritised we all really are whilst 100 trees are felling in the printing of the saved newt story and more emmissions are created in later years in the recouping of the £100K lost on mr newt.

 

Ah yes, bats. They are EVERYWHERE. It's hard to moor up of an evening and fail to see them flitting about in the dusk, yet their rarity is still cited as the reason the Greywell Tunnel (for example) cannot be repaired and the Basingstoke Canal opened up to the end.

 

Similarly thousands of churches all over the land are suffering damage from bat droppings all over the interiors and they are prevented by law from getting rid of the pests.

 

Madness, I tell you!

 

MtB