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I've mooted a blog post on flag etiquette for some months now.

There's a lot of people who could potentially be offended.

So I thought, why not!

 

For your simple guide to the complexities of British nautical flag flying along with a few others, tongue firmly in cheek...

 

(caution, it's a little bit sweary)

 

http://www.boogie-nights.org/2014/10/the-f-word.html

 

 

AKA Honey Ryder

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That would indicate I was trying to sell you something.

 

I was just trying to share a smile.

 

cynicism these days . frusty.gif

Didn't that angry boater blogger bloke get hung drawn and quartered on here for promoting his blog?

I logged i as my facebook thing because I couldnt remember my honey ryder login and ended up blocking myself!

 

I dont think this is spammy or massive self promotion. I have nothing financial to gain from it.

Simply thought it might be fun on a friday.

 

Someone, somewhere will always write somethig worth sharing. regardless of the platform its presented on.

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I've mooted a blog post on flag etiquette for some months now.

There's a lot of people who could potentially be offended.

So I thought, why not!

 

For your simple guide to the complexities of British nautical flag flying along with a few others, tongue firmly in cheek...

 

(caution, it's a little bit sweary)

 

http://www.boogie-nights.org/2014/10/the-f-word.html

 

 

AKA Honey Ryder

Ok, I finally managed to log in as my canal forum self. .... hope this allays fears of some ner do well posting nonsense

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No, it would indicate you were trying to promote your blog...

My blog started ON THIS FORUM. It was Canalworld where it all began. so I see no problem in sharing a funny post...

If posting anything on here is contravenig some sort of non promotional type of etiquette, then you are promoting cynicism and i demand you cease and decist.

I am being sarcastic., Lighten the F&*k up. Not everyone is out for hard hitting gains to line their pockets or inflate their egos.

 

I realise looking at your profile Delta9, that you have been on this forum since 2012 so unlikely to know the history, my blog was part of the old forum, it was called Honey Ryder, it was my narrowboat. It is a narrowboat should I say, but I moved on from there.

The blog was popular with forum members as it provuded useful information in an easily digestible form ( I am a professional marine journalist by trade). However, since most of the stuff I do these days is coastal and offshore, I don't share my posts too often because it doesn't really have any relevance to canal boaters.

The only time I share is if I think it might entertain in some way or have a relevant useful purpose.

 

I certainly don't need to boost my blog using canalforum, I do however still read the forum and engage where I feel I have something valuable or valid to share.

 

which is what a forum is all about, is it not?

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Entertaining but essentially degraded by the foul language. I may have delved deeper into your site but I don't fancy finding more un-necessary obscenities.

Thanks for the feedback. I use swearing as a tool of further expression. I don't swear all of the time.

Isuggest you read blog post becalmed Barbie where this issue of profanity is addressed

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Another little known fact about flags is that they are actually mandated in law and can be 'policed' However, the only people who have the authority to do so are serving or retired naval officers - wot I are. So if I see any flag funny business you have been warned!!

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Another little known fact about flags is that they are actually mandated in law and can be 'policed' However, the only people who have the authority to do so are serving or retired naval officers - wot I are. So if I see any flag funny business you have been warned!!

 

And strangely enough, so do HMRC - logical I suppose as you are more to be boarded at sea by Customs.

 

Any one taking action on inland waters has to be very perverse as wearing (can't really / easily fly a flag on a NB) the wrong ensign has no real significance.

 

I'm a great fan of sticking something different (flag wise) on the back end of a boat - acts as a conversation piece when waiting in a queue at locks.

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Another little known fact about flags is that they are actually mandated in law and can be 'policed' However, the only people who have the authority to do so are serving or retired naval officers - wot I are. So if I see any flag funny business you have been warned!!

I think you may find that the MCA have powers under the Merchant Shipping Acts to enforce flag regulations. Even the police in certain circs. My grandfather got carried away apparently during the VE celebrations, and flew the Royal Standard until he was told to remove it or face the music! Where he got it Is unclear.

 

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We saw an old bloke on the Shroppie this summer with a massive white ensign. I casually asked if he was a member of the Royal Yacht Squadron and got a blank look. 'I'm ex navy so can fly it' was his subsequent reply - and frankly why not??

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And when sailing to a foreign country wearing the in correct flag, or even the wrong size depending on the regulations, can get you in serious trouble with the locals.

 

More of a deep sea problem then on the canals though!

 

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I don't find offensive language on here to be an issue. It is well managed.

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Are you French perhaps?

 

I actually can't see a single obscenity in the blog post. I can count the use of the f word and any other moderate slang word on one hand.

You may notice that the harder language used was done so only further down the page. This was a subtlety to denote class level and potential use of language within each section.

 

Define obscenity:UK law: A material is obscene if it tends to deprave and corrupt those who are likely to read, hear, or see it, and whose minds are susceptible to the immoral influences. This test is not limited to pornographic matter but includes encouragement of violence and use of illegal drugs. A material is determined non-obscene if, in the opinion of a jury or experts, it has art, science, literature, or learning value.

 

Mark99, since there was no mention of drugs sex or violence, no graphic pornography and the only other slang word references were used for educational purposes, I'm fairly confident that this is a scientifically or educative piece on social flag etiquette.

I'm just writing a new blog post, dressed as a pretzel (thanks to the sheldon ref) and i will be waxing on about the loose morals of aquatic life around Gosport. It will need to pass the censors first. But I'm pretty confident of a good outcome on that.

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There are at least 4 profanities including f****ing in there. I'm not taking issue other than to state the content imo is degraded by those. I quite enjoyed It but cannot link to my young nephew for instance. It's also stopped me looking further around your site.

 

I'm not French.

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There are at least 4 profanities including f****ing in there. I'm not taking issue other than to state the content imo is degraded by those. I quite enjoyed It but cannot link to my young nephew for instance. It's also stopped me looking further around your site.

 

I'm not French.

Im fairly sure I warned of sweary content beforehand.

it is rather adult in terms of humour and content, as in it is likely only adults will understand the context contained within.

The swearing was necessary to enforce the nature of the writing. If I edit out the f words not the flag word but the ones referring to the hardness of the Breton folk, if I edit out the couple of *ankers, then it takes it from spicy madras down to a mild korma. And whilst I enjoy a Korma, it's lacking a certain "spice"

 

You may find clean family friendly humour elsewhere in the blog though, with slightly (a Lot) less swearing. However, as a Guardian reader, I find the language employed in those good pages frequently outstrips my own use of profanity, in what is a real life blog, about real life. As such it isn't a soap opera on television where no one goes to the toilet, no one smokes, no one ever curses real swear words, no one drops a stinker in the supermarket and walks away from it and looks accusingly at the nearest child, you know all those things that happen in the real world, they happen in my blog. it's a warts and all account of what it is to live life, on a boat, often on the fringes of society.

 

So in that respect I would have no hesitation letting my nieces aged 6 and 8 read any of my published written musings. (their parents may differ in this opinion)

 

the reason I was checking on your nationality, I just want to be sure I'm not dealing with a Breton Chuck Norris....

because if you were, I would approach with far more caution.

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