In Need of Opinions Please.

[Nick@tinkers-cove]

Hi everybody.

Not sure if anyone remembers, but I posted a few months ago with reference to narrowboat door panel sizes (whether standard or not) - we are looking for head for the cut as the children get a little older, therefore don't have a boat as yet.

I cut portraits and other items using scroll saw techniques, and would really love to re-create the 'Roses & Castles'. I have discovered that the traditional techniques are slowly dying out - which would undoubtedly be a tragic shame. I have started creating my own templates (as with my other work) and used a technique called Segmentation, to cut the image. I have used the standard Humbrol oils, although some of the mixed colours are not quite true to form.

I would really like any comments or opinions, as this would surely help me to get this important traditional art form correct.

I'd like to make it perfectly clear that this is not a sales pitch in any way - I'm experimenting in the early stages and here seems the perfect place to ask for advice. Contact details of anyone who's an authority on Roses & Castles would be perfect.

Thank you for reading, and any comments are greatly appreciated.

Kindest Regards,

Nick.

 

 

[David Schweizer]

Your Castles are quite clearly a simplified copy of Ron Hough's style (see my avatar), but the best people to contact are either Dave Moore, or Phil Speight, both of whom are members of the forum and founder members of the Waterways Craftsmen Guild.

Edited March 20, 2014 by David Schweizer

[Nick@tinkers-cove]

Your Castles are quite clearly a simplified copy of Ron Hough's style (see my avatar), but the best people to contact are either Dave Moore, or Phil Speight, both of whom are members of the forum and founder members of the Waterways Craftsmen Guild.

Thank you very much for your help David.

I've just 'googled' Ron - his work is beautiful. The image I based my cutting on was actually part of a small collection of prints given to me a few years ago and unnamed. The colours were very striking and perfect to base the initial piece on (which is for reference only.) I'm currently sketching different backgrounds and learning lots as my style develops.

Thank you for your reply.

Nick.

Edited March 20, 2014 by Nick@tinkers-cove

[Chop!]

Welcome back to the forum, hope you find a nice boat.

As, it seems to me, that you are specifically asking 'what we think of your scrolling technique?'

I think they look cracking and very professionally done

I can't see how contacting traditional canal artists would help you.

You've managed to combine jig-sawing techniques with trad painting that I really like

Well done I say!

Edited March 20, 2014 by Chop!

[MuddyWater]

Thought this might be an interesting read for people.

http://narrowboatinfo.co.uk/roses-and-castles/

Regards

Matt

[mark99]

There is a DVD by Tony Lewery that shows step by step how to do it plus scumbling. He's quite a good presenter actually.

[carlt]

As my scroll saw attempts look like I've been cutting out shapes with a woodman's axe I can only gaze in awe.

 

Very nice work indeed!

[Nick@tinkers-cove]

Welcome back to the forum, hope you find a nice boat.

As, it seems to me, that you are specifically asking 'what we think of your scrolling technique?'

I think they look cracking and very professionally done

I can't see how contacting traditional canal artists would help you.

You've managed to combine jig-sawing techniques with trad painting that I really like

Well done I say!

Thanks Chop - I can't wait to get over the Pennines / Yorks Dales.

(Love your Blog by the way)

Regards,

Nick.

Thought this might be an interesting read for people.

 

http://narrowboatinfo.co.uk/roses-and-castles/

 

Regards

 

Matt

Thanks for the info Matt. Hope Nuneaton is the way we left it 8 yrs ago. My wife grew up there and I lived there for 5yrs.

Regards,

Nick

There is a DVD by Tony Lewery that shows step by step how to do it plus scumbling. He's quite a good presenter actually.

Thanks Mark...I'll have a look on Amazon.

Regards,

Nick.

As my scroll saw attempts look like I've been cutting out shapes with a woodman's axe I can only gaze in awe.

 

Very nice work indeed!

Hi Carl. Yes it does take a little practice - but I seem to be able to do it in my sleep nowadays.

[mark99]

Nick, just to clarify - Tony Lewerys vid is about painting. Having re-read your original post and looked harded at it I can see you have constructed the image - it's credit to you because I thought you just built up the image solely via a paint technique.

Edited March 21, 2014 by mark99

[Nick@tinkers-cove]

Nick, just to clarify - Tony Lewerys vid is about painting. Having re-read your original post and looked harded at it I can see you have constructed the image - it's credit to you because I thought you just built up the image solely via a paint technique.

Thanks Mark. Yes, I'll still check it out - some of the work still involves some of the painting techniques, and I'd like to keep the style as true to the original as possible.

Kindest Regards,

Nick.

[Ray T]

Tony Lewery also has a very good book on the history and technique of boat painting.

 

"Flowers Afloat".

 

 

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Flowers-Afloat-Folk-Artists-Canals/dp/0715301454/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395389473&sr=1-1&keywords=flowers+afloat

 

Also: http://canalartbyterence.com/canalArts.html

Edited March 21, 2014 by Ray T

[MuddyWater]

 

Thanks for the info Matt. Hope Nuneaton is the way we left it 8 yrs ago. My wife grew up there and I lived there for 5yrs.

Regards,

Nick

 

Nuneaton is still the same old town but now we are over run with Pound shops and Charity shops in the town centre, Local Shops and small businesses are a very rare find nowadays which is a shame imo as they usually had better quality of services.

 

Regards

 

Matt

 

[bizzard]

Nuneaton is still the same old town but now we are over run with Pound shops and Charity shops in the town centre, Local Shops and small businesses are a very rare find nowadays which is a shame imo as they usually had better quality of services.

 

Regards

 

Matt

 

I've noticed how most folk have lost the skill of buying things in small shops, especially butchers, bakers, grocers ect, like talking to the shop keeper and asking their advise plus a bit of haggling. Folk are now used to trailing around supermarkets where they don't necessarily have to say a word to anyone even the cashier.

[MuddyWater]

I've noticed how most folk have lost the skill of buying things in small shops, especially butchers, bakers, grocers ect, like talking to the shop keeper and asking their advise plus a bit of haggling. Folk are now used to trailing around supermarkets where they don't necessarily have to say a word to anyone even the cashier.

 

Couldn't agree more Bizz, people are too wrapped up in there own lives that they have forgotten how to give out a simple courtesy hello or thank you.

I have grown up around my house since i was about 8 and my local corner shop has been there since before i remember they have seen me grow up and every time i walk past i get a friendly smile and wave. That to me is what the world is missing nowadays. Its a sad day when social media has now replaced all forms of communication. It has its benefits no doubt but i think the likes of facebook/twitter have pretty much ruined children's ability to socialise in the outside world.

 

Regards

Matt

 

 

[Mendip-Locks]

I understand what your saying about the colours but the saw work and finish looks top drawer.

[Nick@tinkers-cove]

I understand what your saying about the colours but the saw work and finish looks top drawer.

Thank you - it's really quite an exciting time at the moment. I still have lots more to do, and my cutting is becoming cleaner. I now work solely from home and spending more time doing what I love.

Kindest Regards,

Nick.

[carlt]

Thank you - it's really quite an exciting time at the moment. I still have lots more to do, and my cutting is becoming cleaner.

What saw do you have?

 

When I worked in the D&T department of a school I got to play with Hegners which produced far better results than the Axminster clone I use at home.

[Nick@tinkers-cove]

What saw do you have?

 

When I worked in the D&T department of a school I got to play with Hegners which produced far better results than the Axminster clone I use at home.

The Hegners are quite near the top of the tree really. For the past year I have been using a Scheppach Deco-flex but I'm currently making room for an Excalibur EX-30. I'm looking forward to using it for much larger pieces than the current 16" throat.

Regards,

Nick.