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MtB Veteran II

MtB

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6 minutes ago, Mike Tee said:

How does he / she get away with not having a safety cert since 2011? Are they not compulsory on rivers?

 

I wondered that too! 

 

Been on the bank for decades, perhaps?

 

 

MtB Veteran II

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1 minute ago, Tam & Di said:

Would you get insurance if it's not had a safety cert for that long?

 

I don't think either of my insurance policies are dependent on having a safety cert.

 

 

 

 

 

Tonka Veteran

Tonka

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1 minute ago, Tam & Di said:

Would you get insurance if it's not had a safety cert for that long?

don't think they ask how long has it had a safety cert?

so as soon as it had one and a current survey then it would be insurable on comprehensive policy

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Tam & Di

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1 minute ago, Tonka said:

don't think they ask how long has it had a safety cert?

so as soon as it had one and a current survey then it would be insurable on comprehensive policy

My thinking was more along the line that there must be quite a lot of work that needs doing to bring it up to scratch if it not had any inspection for that long.

 

magnetman Veteran II

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2 minutes ago, Tam & Di said:

Would you get insurance if it's not had a safety cert for that long?

3rd party insurance does not ask about the BS certificate. 

 

There is a simple reason why the Boat in question has not had a BS certificate. It has not been kept registered. The mooring is on the non tidal so it should be registered but the River is in such a mental state down that end that if one has a Boat on a mooring it is not going to be on the list for enforcement. 

 

The mooring is not residential, its trot moorings and access is by dinghy which is actually quite hazardous in winter. Someone drowned there recently getting from dinghy to barge but then he did have a rucksack full of heavy shopping on which is a bit silly. 

 

 

Tonka Veteran

Tonka

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3 minutes ago, magnetman said:

3rd party insurance does not ask about the BS certificate. 

 

There is a simple reason why the Boat in question has not had a BS certificate. It has not been kept registered. The mooring is on the non tidal so it should be registered but the River is in such a mental state down that end that if one has a Boat on a mooring it is not going to be on the list for enforcement. 

 

The mooring is not residential, its trot moorings and access is by dinghy which is actually quite hazardous in winter. Someone drowned there recently getting from dinghy to barge but then he did have a rucksack full of heavy shopping on which is a bit silly. 

 

 

According to the brokers map and looking at the photo's I thought it was on the trot moorings just below Kingston on Thames. Inside the island where the boat club is near where Hawker Siddely used to be

Mike Tee Influencer

Mike Tee

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1 hour ago, Tam & Di said:

My thinking was more along the line that there must be quite a lot of work that needs doing to bring it up to scratch if it not had any inspection for that long.

 

That was my thinking - if I were selling a boat without one, I'd get one done as a sales point - so maybe it needs lots of dosh thrown at it to get one.

magnetman Veteran II

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2 hours ago, Tonka said:

According to the brokers map and looking at the photo's I thought it was on the trot moorings just below Kingston on Thames. Inside the island where the boat club is near where Hawker Siddely used to be

That is where it is yes. 

2 hours ago, magnetman said:

 The mooring is on the non tidal so it should be registered ...

The mooring is not residential, its trot moorings and access is by dinghy which is actually quite hazardous in winter. Someone drowned there recently getting from dinghy to barge but then he did have a rucksack full of heavy shopping on which is a bit silly. 

 

 

Stevens Eyot. 

 

 

DShK Rising Star

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On 22/02/2025 at 20:37, spud said:

it is when they feel the need to comment negatively about what other owners do with their boats as it is none of there business - all part of the entitlement that comes with ownership of a historic boat - fear of being 'slaughtered' if @MtB was to buy fenny and convert it says it all, even if 'slaughtered' is metaphorically speaking.

 

you are a historic boat owner as well as a restoration man so will probably be reluctant to accept it - and you have been quite vocal on here about your thoughts of fenny when it first came up for sale = this thread 28 11 2024  "Don't like how the cabin has been done (mostly done to look wooden - but the engine room looks like a metal top?) Cants don't look right"

If Elon Musk bought Big Ben, and bricked over the it and converted it to flats, would you think it not acceptable for anyone to make comment?

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11 hours ago, DShK said:

If Elon Musk bought Big Ben, and bricked over the it and converted it to flats, would you think it not acceptable for anyone to make comment?

 

To be fair that isn't a great comparison and is a bit of a straw man argument.

A better question would be if someone bought a Crossley bodied BUT 9613T and turned it into an air b&b location in their garden should they be chastised for this? (ie: no one outside of a very niche group cares, plus the changes are probably reversible anyway). 

 

 

Tonka Veteran

Tonka

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11 hours ago, DShK said:

If Elon Musk bought Big Ben, and bricked over the it and converted it to flats, would you think it not acceptable for anyone to make comment?

It would be a very small flat as Big Ben is the Bell. 

The building is St Stephen's Tower, I believe

IanM Experienced

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25 minutes ago, Tonka said:

The building is St Stephen's Tower, I believe

 

It's the Elizabeth Tower.  It was renamed in 2012 for the Queen's diamond jubilee.

 

But yes, before that it was St Stephen's Tower.

MtB Veteran II

MtB

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4 minutes ago, IanM said:

 

It's the Elizabeth Tower.  It was renamed in 2012 for the Queen's diamond jubilee.

 

But yes, before that it was St Stephen's Tower.

 

Yes, its bell itself which is called Big Ben, not the tower. 

 

 

Tonka Veteran

Tonka

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12 minutes ago, IanM said:

 

It's the Elizabeth Tower.  It was renamed in 2012 for the Queen's diamond jubilee.

 

But yes, before that it was St Stephen's Tower.

So it was St Stephen's Tower for longer then it has been Elizabeth Tower

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magnetman Veteran II

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Someone might have a house called big Ben. I was born in a house called Big Billy's. 

 

 

(true).

 

If someone had called their own house Big Ben perhaps it could be converted to flats. 

 

 

 

Maybe Lone Musk (better not anagramise the surname!) has got a house called Big Ben. 

Tonka Veteran

Tonka

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4 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Someone might have a house called big Ben. I was born in a house called Big Billy's. 

 

 

(true).

 

If someone had called their own house Big Ben perhaps it could be converted to flats. 

 

 

 

Maybe Lone Musk (better not anagramise the surname!) has got a house called Big Ben. 

Well he is now an American and geography is not their strongest subject. They bought the wrong bridge in London. Landed on the wrong beach in Normandy

DShK Rising Star

DShK

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4 hours ago, Tonka said:

It would be a very small flat as Big Ben is the Bell. 

The building is St Stephen's Tower, I believe

I know, but only the nerdiest of pedants points this out. So inevitably everyone in this thread would point it out! haha

magnetman Veteran II

magnetman

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Turner V twin Diesel is nice. There was one of these in a small wooden motorcruiser at Kingston on Thames for a long time but it sank a few years ago. Don't know if someone saved the engine. 

 

Looks an interesting project for someone.

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It was for sale on Facebook about a year ago, an obscure selling on behalf of the owner, no nothing about it, no photos kind of ad....I messaged but never received a reply, not in the market now, I have a project!

Oh well, as you say an interesting project 

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