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10 minutes ago, Derek R. said:

Just how much walking around do you do in a back cabin though? First thing I do is sit down; to stoke the range, access the table cupboard, eat or drink, and crouch to drop/raise the cross bed.

 

This is my experience too. Not sure I ever need to stand up straight in one and it always puzzles my why so many people find it such an issue.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

This is my experience too. Not sure I ever need to stand up straight in one and it always puzzles my why so many people find it such an issue.

 

 

I can stand between roof beams and gear/speed rods which is handy when getting dressed etc, but as you say not essential. The only back cabin I’ve been in which had full headroom (hydraulic drive), wasn’t very nice as all the proportions are wrong. 

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3 hours ago, noddyboater said:

Of course that’s just the back cabin, everything forward of that you’ll be fine, and it’s a small price for having such a vessel. I’d suggest getting something with a nice heavy lump, a jp3 maybe, and a draught around 3’.

 

 

Just don't try bringing it up the bloody Rochdale....

 

... never again!!!

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A proper back cabin has the prop shaft under the floor and gear and throttle shafts below the ceiling.  That don't leave much room for standing up, whatever height you are.  Why do you want to stand up, anyway ?

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It is accepted that the headroom in a back cabin is always going to be low but Delhi/Dehli has a lot of cabin that is not back cabin and it would be good to be able to stand up in that part.

That was the bit I was enquiring about.

I suspect what I really need to do is make enquiries about the cost of surgical procedures to shorten one's legs ;)

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1 hour ago, Chris Williams said:

A proper back cabin has the prop shaft under the floor and gear and throttle shafts below the ceiling.  That don't leave much room for standing up, whatever height you are.  Why do you want to stand up, anyway ?

To warm your bare backside on the range, obviously. 

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2 hours ago, noddyboater said:

To warm your bare backside on the range, obviously. 

With your head sticking up through the hatch.

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8 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

Just don't try bringing it up the bloody Rochdale....

 

... never again!!!

Oh that explains a picture I saw recently with half of Lancashire trying to pull Flamingo off some mud.....  :)

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1 hour ago, mark99 said:

Oh that explains a picture I saw recently with half of Lancashire trying to pull Flamingo off some mud.....  :)

And quite possibly failing...

 

... we did the Rochdale a few years ago in a "sensible" boat, but in Flamingo it is an order of magnitude harder, (honestly!).

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10 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

And quite possibly failing...

 

... we did the Rochdale a few years ago in a "sensible" boat, but in Flamingo it is an order of magnitude harder, (honestly!).

 

Only the one... 😁

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39 minutes ago, koukouvagia said:

I used to like "Elizabeth", (as it was called before "re-branding") when it was a very basic boat on our local patch.

However at this price...

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Alvecote Marina website / brokerage is now showing BIRMINGHAM as deposit taken.

 

Equally of interest is the Alvecote Marina Facebook page which shows KENT on the dock at Grendon yesterday, now deconverted and carrying Barlows lettering :captain:

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On 08/06/2019 at 22:07, pete harrison said:

Alvecote Marina website / brokerage is now showing BIRMINGHAM as deposit taken.

 

Equally of interest is the Alvecote Marina Facebook page which shows KENT on the dock at Grendon yesterday, now deconverted and carrying Barlows lettering :captain:

yes they got a steal with Kent!

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Back in the 70's everyone was busy putting conversions onto working boats.  That meant a lot of redundant masts, stands, etc..

I found a market for these in canalside pubs.  I wonder how many are still around?  Or have they been burnt, with all that nice lead-based paint.

 

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On 10/06/2019 at 15:54, billybobbooth said:

yes they got a steal with Kent!

Kent has just gone past me at Colwich.

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On 05/06/2019 at 13:12, Chris Williams said:

A proper back cabin has the prop shaft under the floor and gear and throttle shafts below the ceiling.  That don't leave much room for standing up, whatever height you are.  Why do you want to stand up, anyway ?

So the back cabin on my boat wasn't proper, then? 😛

 

edit: and even more pedantically, butty back cabins aren't "proper" either?

 

 

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On 22/06/2019 at 19:00, Rob-M said:

Kent has just gone past me at Colwich.

from what I saw there doing a good job, I was on the edge of putting in an offer but couldn't justify price with the engine being shot as 2 wooden boats is fine but both with engine problems would have got me shot

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53 minutes ago, billybobbooth said:

from what I saw there doing a good job, I was on the edge of putting in an offer but couldn't justify price with the engine being shot as 2 wooden boats is fine but both with engine problems would have got me shot

Having chatted with the new owner the engine was a simple repair.

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3 hours ago, FadeToScarlet said:

So the back cabin on my boat wasn't proper, then? 😛

 

edit: and even more pedantically, butty back cabins aren't "proper" either?

 

 

What was different about your boat?  Could you stand up in the cabin? 

Buttys don't normally have prop shafts or throttle shafts, so the comment doesn't apply to them.

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70ft Fellows, Morton & Clayton 'Josher'      
£38,000
 
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Description

History
Falcon, the motor boat, was built by Fellows, Morton and Clayton Ltd (FMC) and first registered in September 1926. FMC was the biggest general canal carrying firm in Britain in the first half of the 20th Century, carrying all sorts of goods, both perishable and non-perishable, including coal, steel, minerals, timber, foodstuffs and so on. Their craft were known for their pleasing lines, still much admired even today, and nicknamed "Joshers" after their designer, Joshua Fellows.
After Nationalisation in 1948, the Falcon was based in the Northwest and used mainly for maintenance duties. She was acquired by Willow Wren who wished to re-establish commercial canal transport but the bitter winter freeze-up of 1963 immobilised their fleet for 6 weeks, long enough for most of their trade to be permanently lost to road transport. They had renamed her "Sandpiper" and fitted her with a Lister SR3 and she continued to earn her living for Willow Wren, based in Rugby, as a holiday camping boat. The current owner bought her from Willow Wren in January 1981 and kept her on the Leek Arm of the Caldon Canal until she went in the early 1980s to Ian Kemp at Ellesmere Port for a complete restoration to the original FMC build and decor, minus the elm bottom, which had been replaced by Willow Wren with a rivetted steel bottom, using the original chines. A Lister JP2 was bought from an ex-Waterways employee in Middlewich and fitted during the restoration which was complete by 1986 and featured in the Waterways World magazine.

Falcon is paired up with the butty Venice and would be ideal to be sold together, The pair toured much of the canal system between their maiden "voyage" together in 2004 until 2013, when they moved from Saltford near Bath to their current base at London.

Specifications

Builder: Fellows Morton Clayton
Make: Fellows Morton Clayton
Model: 70 Traditional
Year constructed: 1926 
No. of engines: 1
Engine model: Lister JP
Fuel type: Diesel
Length over all: 70'
Beam: 7' 

Engine(s)

Engine: Lister JP  
Inverter: Pure sine wave 1000w
Charger: Sterling 24amp
Solar panels on roof

Construction

Material / build: Rivetted Steel  

Traditional Boatman’s cabin at the aft end, Traditional canvas covering the rest of the vessel, this as been partially refitted with wood structure, windows and white painted Tongue and groove. 

Interior. 

The interior is partially converted, currently comprises a solid fuel stove, sink, water tank and materials. Fully fitted boatman’s cabin at the aft end.

This boat has not been cleared and personal possessions will be removed prior to sale.

 

Certification

Virginia Currer Marine Ltd are professional brokers, and are full accredited members of:-

ABYA - Association of Brokers and Yacht Agents  
BMF - British Marine Federation  
BRBA - Boat Retailers and Brokers Association 

BUYING THROUGH AN ACCREDITED BROKER AFFORDS A HIGH LEVEL OF BUYER PROTECTION

 
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