roland elsdon Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 It's Atalanta. It is a constellation 'Zeus, recognizing the immensity of their love for each other, felt sympathy for the lovers and turned Atalanta and Hippomenes into a constellation of stars so that the couple could remain together throughout time. She is the Greek goddess of the hunt. ( my father was an authority on Greek mythology) She also had a fat behind and got stuck at marston doles for 2 days and until 1996 was banned off the southern Oxford. We got her stuck in many other places. Right now I will get my anorack and shut up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 It's Atalanta. It is a constellation 'Zeus, recognizing the immensity of their love for each other, felt sympathy for the lovers and turned Atalanta and Hippomenes into a constellation of stars so that the couple could remain together throughout time. She is the Greek goddess of the hunt. ( my father was an authority on Greek mythology) She also had a fat behind and got stuck at marston doles for 2 days and until 1996 was banned off the southern Oxford. We got her stuck in many other places. Right now I will get my anorack and shut up. Fascinating, thanks for the info. Have a greeno. She sounds like something out of 'Allo Allo': The starry Greek goddess with the fat behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Was that the intended spelling, or was it perhaps the work of the same signwriter who lettered 'Antartic'? Most likely mis-spelt as were EDGEWARE, TRIAGULUM, etc., and even when BW more recently spelt ACHERNAR - ACHENAR: Personally I find any detail of ex-working boats for sale adds just a little seasoning to the dish. Kids Inheritance? Who worked for it? Give them knowledge and wisdom - spend the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 ACHERNAR - ACHENAR: Bless you. ...and of course the legendary 'Bilster'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted February 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) From the latest HNBC Magazine just received. 1936 "Large Woolwich" "Belfast" is offered for sale by the Dacorum Narrow Boat Project. Recent survey shows "the metalwork is thin in some places and some considerable renovation work will be required". Guide price: oiro £25KEDIT: Acrually looking at associated Facebook "Narrowbpats for sale" page, they seem to accept the final sale price may be quite a bit less than the above. No expert, but from the single rather poor photo I found, looks like engine is an SR3, ST3 or similar, not a H series engine as might be more usual. Also listed, already mentioned in this thread are.... Owl £79K The North £75K Tug No 2 (formerly Algol) £49,500 Edited February 21, 2017 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Z , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted February 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Z , ????? Are we keeping you up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 ????? Are we keeping you up? That does rather look like an unintentional post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greygal Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 From the latest HNBC Magazine just received. 1936 "Large Woolwich" "Belfast" is offered for sale by the Dacorum Narrow Boat Project. Recent survey shows "the metalwork is thin in some places and some considerable renovation work will be required". Guide price: oiro £25K EDIT: Acrually looking at associated Facebook "Narrowbpats for sale" page, they seem to accept the final sale price may be quite a bit less than the above. No expert, but from the single rather poor photo I found, looks like engine is an SR3, ST3 or similar, not a H series engine as might be more usual. Also listed, already mentioned in this thread are.... Owl £79K The North £75K Tug No 2 (formerly Algol) £49,500 Mmm, I wonder if a small Northwich would like a big Woolwich as a pal....I love this thread too, off or on piste but it can have quite serious consequences for one's bank account... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 That does rather look like an unintentional post! Well there is one person who would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Well there is one person who would know. Well it wasn't intended by me, but I think my phone had other ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Aka "trouser message" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Tom Pudding tug and sections to go with it: http://www.alanpease.co.uk/boats/hatfield.html Built in 1955, we believe the first to be built of the seven Tom Pudding Tugs. Built by Camplings of Goole. Length 48ft x 14.6ft and has a Lister Blackstone air start engine. There is also an original Jabus which went behind the tug and in front of the Tom Puddings. There is also an original Tom Pudding, which is in sections but with a bit of work could be put back together again. There is a complete set at the Yorkshire Waterways Museum, in Goole but this could be your own bit of history. The owner has loads of photos and history on the tug. Well worth a look!! Do a "google" search for Tom Pudding and see what they did!!!!!!. Laying West Yorkshire £35,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 What was the purpose of the Jabus?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) What was the purpose of the Jabus?? Think of a Tom Pudding as a floating cube, with large flat sides - not a very good shape for going through the water, especially with the flush from the tug's propeller pushing against it when loaded. So a Jebus is fitted between the tug and the first Tom Pudding, with all of the other Tom Pudding's in the 'train' being closely lashed. The Jebus is basically a bow shaped hull that when lashed to the first Tom Pudding helps to give a little streamline and deflect the flush from the tug's propeller edit - that is my understanding anyway, but I am no specialist in north eastern boating techniques. Edited February 22, 2017 by pete harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I think Pete has it spot on, although it is interesting that at some times, at least, if they were towing a line of "empties" the jebus was propelled in front of the tug, and not attached to the line of empty Tom Puddings. I presume the jebuses (what's the plural of jebus!) were ballasted to bring them down in the water around as much as loaded boat, so when towing empty, they would actually have been more of a hinderance than a help, if attached to the front of the empty Puddings? From http://www.waterwaysmuseum.org.uk/userfiles/modes1/GooleArchive/xw01377.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykaskin Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) I think Pete has it spot on, although it is interesting that at some times, at least, if they were towing a line of "empties" the jebus was propelled in front of the tug, and not attached to the line of empty Tom Puddings. I presume the jebuses (what's the plural of jebus!) were ballasted to bring them down in the water around as much as loaded boat, so when towing empty, they would actually have been more of a hinderance than a help, if attached to the front of the empty Puddings? Yeah, the unloaded pans didn't need it as the prop wash went right under them, as you say the Jebus being deeper than an unloaded pan would have got in the way, so they pushed them. There is a autobiography of someone who used to work steam tugs in the area, and I can't remember who. Back on topic, seems to be a lack of historic butties for sale at the moment? Edited February 23, 2017 by mykaskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Back on topic, seems to be a lack of historic butties for sale at the moment? Ever since the railways privatised their station buffets, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Back on topic, seems to be a lack of historic butties for sale at the moment? Well, I don't know, but assume some are potentially "For Sale" even if not actively listed as such, although some not exactly in a "ready to carry" state........ Lupus - still at Brinklow Hydrus - still at Ivybridge, Braunston, I think. No idea what happened about things like Angel - advertised but still at Hillmorton, so perhaps he changed his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggers Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Small woolwich Meteor is still for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Small woolwich Meteor is still for sale How would one know these things though? I can imagine for anybody looking but not close to people in the know, it's all a bit confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivergate Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Meteor is asking £14k ...empty steel cabin, over footed and steel bottom with steel gunnel full length...I thought it was a little over priced.. Is Lupus actually for sale..? Whats her condition/price..? Edited February 23, 2017 by rivergate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggers Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 5 hours ago, rivergate said: Meteor is asking £14k ...empty steel cabin, over footed and steel bottom with steel gunnel full length...I thought it was a little over priced.. Is Lupus actually for sale..? Whats her condition/price..? They would take a lot less than that actually. and Alan, we haven't relisted her recently as we have a lot on our plate and only now are sorting through boats at the yard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 hours ago, rivergate said: Is Lupus actually for sale..? Whats her condition/price..? AFAIK, yes, and I think the Brinklow Boys are very keen to see her stay a butty, and not have to become another motor conversion. I have no idea of price, but is still cabin-less in its Manchester Ship Canal mud-boat condition. It floats well enough, but I suspect needs quite a lot of work to be in good order, so restoration costs probable more than price of un-restored boat? If interested, then ring them - it's the only way you will find out! There atr o baots nicerthan the Small Northwich ones, (and that from a man who only owns a "Middle" and a "Large"!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivergate Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 54 minutes ago, Tiggers said: They would take a lot less than that actually. ....don't tell me that! ...when they told me 14k I didn't even bother thinking about an offer as I just thought it was waaay to much to start with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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