Historic Boats for sale online

[alan_fincher]

Why is an admiral class particularly desirable? I've never found them particularly attractive, aesthetically.

 

Coarse design of bow, and welded construction IIRC, or am I confusing them with river class?

 

My understanding is that they do not handle at all badly, and swim quite well, and are fast.

 

Unlike the River class, where none started life as a conventional motor, a boat like this represents the very last attempts to update the genre, other than a few "one offs" built subsequently.

 

A considerable advantage might also be the 6' 10" design width, making them far more likely to be able to go to somewhere like Llangollen without sticking in a lock than the Grand Union boars, designed to be a full 2.5" wider.

 

Admittedly I think most will think a Grand Union or a Josher looks "prettier", but the Admirals certainly have a dedicated fan club.

[Athy]

 

a boat like this represents the very last attempts to update the genre, other than a few "one offs" built subsequently.

 

So, as the boaty equivalent of the B.R. standard 9F class, they are of historical interest. I guess that whichever one was built last is the 'Evening Star' of the cut.

[madcat]

given that Tawny Owl would float on a wet tea towel I suspect Effingham would go ok on wet grass

 

 

Smart boat for somebody , I'm surprised you haven't succumbed to its charms Pete.

Edited December 10, 2015 by madcat

[Speedwheel]

Some lucky person is going to make me very, very jealous:

 

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=454257

 

It is however a shame the lettering has not been done historically correctly, having being done how COLLINGWOOD was lettered - easy to rectify though.

 

EFFINGHAM is possibly the only boat that could tempt be back to narrow boat ownership, but it will not be on this occasion

 

Yes, it is a lovely boat and the restoration is 1st class.

 

ETA Has it ever been converted (I assume not since it was in BW ownership until relatively recently)?

Edited December 10, 2015 by Speedwheel

[pete harrison]

Collingwood, in spite of the 'incorrect' lettering

It is EFFINGHAM that is lettered historically incorrectly, COLLINGWOOD being lettered with the details of its owner since the mid 1960's.

 

The lettering on EFFINGHAM is correct but placed incorrectly on the cabinside, with the lifebouy roundel at the wrong end of the 'British Waterways' lettering. I am also reasonably sure that EFFINGHAM did not have a yellow dividing line between the cabin and engine room as was very common with the 'British Waterways' livery of this period. This is an observation and not a critisism, and I am sure most potential purchasers would not care anyway - including me

 

edit - clearly what is important is structural condition / usability verses asking price, and EFFINGHAM looks to have had plenty of structural work completed since being acquired by its current owner. I just hope it does not get converted.

Edited December 10, 2015 by pete harrison

[pete harrison]

Has it ever been converted (I assume not since it was in BW ownership until relatively recently)?

EFFINGHAM was advertised for sale by British Waterways Board in March 2006, but was subsequently withdrawn along with most other 'historic' boats. At the time of the auction EFFINGHAM was sunk at Bridge 106 on the Montgomery Canal, although it was temporarily refloated for a few photographs. EFFINGHAM was then leased to a group in Birmingham in 2008 and put onto dry land, but was returned to British Waterways Board pretty much untouched two years later. It was then sold via an internet auction to its current owner who has added a short cabin directly in front of the engine room

[Speedwheel]

EFFINGHAM was advertised for sale by British Waterways Board in March 2006, but was subsequently withdrawn along with most other 'historic' boats. At the time of the auction EFFINGHAM was sunk at Bridge 106 on the Montgomery Canal, although it was temporarily refloated for a few photographs. EFFINGHAM was then leased to a group in Birmingham in 2008 and put onto dry land, but was returned to British Waterways Board pretty much untouched two years later. It was then sold via an internet auction to its current owner who has added a short cabin directly in front of the engine room

 

Thanks Pete. Didn't know it had a cabin extension

Edited December 10, 2015 by Speedwheel

[pete harrison]

 

Thanks Pete. Didn't know it had a cabin extension

The cabin extension is described in the current Apollo Duck advert, and although painted black it is visible in the accompanying photograph

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Lottery ticket purchased

[djgoode1980]

https://m.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=456248

[Athy]

https://m.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=456248

I see that your link leads to an advert for Marcellus. Be aware that this boat already has its own thread.

[Starcoaster]

Baltic up on the Duck...

 

http://www.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=454354

 

SOMEONE GIVE ME MONEY!!

Edited January 11, 2016 by Starcoaster

[junior]

https://m.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=456248

Wasn't this the boat that was for sale a few months ago at Whilton Marina?

[johnthebridge]

Can't do a link, but does anyone know the name of the big Northwich converted motor that's just come up on the Duck? Tried the 'phone number to no avail.

Thanks.

[pete harrison]

Can't do a link, but does anyone know the name of the big Northwich converted motor that's just come up on the Duck? Tried the 'phone number to no avail.

Thanks.

Just for you John

 

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=456700

[RLWP]

[alan_fincher]

Just for you John

 

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/display.phtml?aid=456700

 

What a singularly uninformative advert!

 

(and let's use a picture that shows neither the whole front end, nor the rear end!).

[RLWP]

It does show the hose reel quite nicely

 

Richard

[alan_fincher]

It does show the hose reel quite nicely

 

Richard

 

And the random carrier bag.....

[pete harrison]

I am thinking SEAFORD

[Athy]

 

What a singularly uninformative advert!

What do you mean? It informs us that the boat has only one engine. You're such a stickler for detail sometimes

 

Is this not one of the many craft which were subjected to Fincher scrutiny during your boat-hunting period?

[Paul H]

I am thinking SEAFORD

Yep its the Seaford restored and converted by Ian Kemp a couple of years back. Shame as it had remained unconverted for 75 years.

 

Paul

[alan_fincher]

I am thinking SEAFORD

Well the back cabin colour scheme matches the last time I saw Seaford, but if so, it has been converted in (maybe) the last 4 yeras or so, (which might explain why it sounds unfinished inside?).

 

However, if it is Seaford, (and I can't think of any other candidate right now), it is surely dramatically cheaper than when (possibly fairly hopeful) attempts were made to advertise it a few years back as an unconverted boat.

 

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Yep its the Seaford restored and converted by Ian Kemp a couple of years back. Shame as it had remained unconverted for 75 years.

 

Paul

 

I have memories of it being advertised before that, I though somewhere in the £70K - £80K range, but perhaps I'm imagining that. (On reflection it does sound unlikely!)

[pete harrison]

SEAFORD was advertised for sale as an unconverted motor (that had recently been re-bottomed and re-footed) in October 2012 at £62000, and it was re-advertised in February 2013 but without a price.

 

SEAFORD is now advertised converted and part fitted at £45000, and to my mind this now makes EFFINGHAM at £32000 look expensive

Edited January 11, 2016 by pete harrison

[alan_fincher]

Is this not one of the many craft which were subjected to Fincher scrutiny during your boat-hunting period?

 

No.

 

In actual fact in a year and a half we only succeeded in looking at about 4 possible candidate boats in a year and a half, (and one wild card, only because we happened to be where it was).

 

Half way reasonable full length ex working boats with a conversion on only come on the open market very rarely, (although others change hands without ever being openly marketed).

 

I think one major reason for a dearth of converted ones is that so many that were converted have now had the conversion stripped off. As Paul says, it is a shame this one never before converted now has been - but I guess what drives people to do that is the extreme difficulty in finding a suitable boat already carrying a conversion. (Personally I wouldn't, but it is an individual choice, of course).