noddyboater Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, BEngo said: Roger Farrington did. Result was Batavia quondam boat of parishioner Batavia I recall N Do you know who built Firefly, with the Kromhout semi diesel? That certainly looks like it's a loose replica of Pacific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy66 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, allybsc said: Ooh I wonder if it has... How reliable... Well I guess only time will tell ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 14 hours ago, noddyboater said: It's conventional for a working BCN tug. Several builders of modern "tug style" shells should spend a while studying it! Yes, to both points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Adams Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 14 hours ago, noddyboater said: Do you know who built Firefly, with the Kromhout semi diesel? That certainly looks like it's a loose replica of Pacific. No but it came past here on the Basingstoke Canal a week ago and I expect it to come back soon. I think he said it was about 20 years old. I will ask him if I see him, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batavia Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 14 hours ago, noddyboater said: Do you know who built Firefly, with the Kromhout semi diesel? That certainly looks like it's a loose replica of Pacific. It probably helped that Roger owned Pacific before John Pattle and had done much of the hull restoration work. The hull design of Batavia is entirely down to Roger, whilst we must shoulder the blame for the cabin! Chris G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 We had a serious look at Batavia as we now struggle on shallow canals. Gorgeous boat but not quite enough to forsake our current liability for!! I suspect pacific is deep too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, roland elsdon said: We had a serious look at Batavia as we now struggle on shallow canals. Gorgeous boat but not quite enough to forsake our current liability for!! I suspect pacific is deep too. John and Georgie will wax lyrical about Pacific's ability to not get badly stuck despite its draught. It is apparently much better than Brentford in that regard. The reason, according to John, is that although the boat is deep it is round bilged, so it simply stops and slides sideways off most things. You have to like steering whilst standing practically atop an HA3 though. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tee Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, BEngo said: You have to like steering whilst standing practically atop an HA3 though. N Yes, I suspect that might be a deal breaker for me - however, the rest of it.....................??? (Ear plugs are cheap though!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 A few years ago I was fortunate to be asked by John Pattle to bring Pacific back down south after the Braunston Show. I loved every minute of the trip. There are two things you have to get used to: the very noisy HA3 and the very lively steering. I'm used to ex working boats that mainly stay put; the moment you let go of Pacific's tiller the boat leaps all over the place. The fit out is full of clever ideas, some of which I've pinched for my own boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 We decided against Batavia because no stern cabin, and the vaguely esoteric and rare engine. All our boats have had H series listers comfortable with them, and I know a man who can fix what I cant! Could not envisage selling yet just need to buy a cable winch after this years Stratford shenanigans. Cheaper than 2 boats ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, koukouvagia said: (snipped). . . There are two things you have to get used to: the very noisy HA3 and the very lively steering. I'm used to ex working boats that mainly stay put; the moment you let go of Pacific's tiller the boat leaps all over the place. TYCHO was the same. Loved it to bits, but leave the tiller to check on oil pressure and she was off across the fields. Two people on the gunnels and the tumblehome would go past vertical - in the wrong direction!! Rounded bilges for you. YARMOUTH at 62ft was rock steady. John put a LOT of work into PACIFIC. One of a unique pair (BITTEL is the other). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Adams Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 Noticed this on Apollo duck 40Ft Vintage Narrow Boat £4,000 UK Narrow Boats > Traditional For Sale Called Capella could it be part of the butty GUCC small Woolwich Capella? If it a historic boat then it is very cheap? Hnboc site shows Capella as full length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capella247 Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mike Adams said: Noticed this on Apollo duck 40Ft Vintage Narrow Boat £4,000 UK Narrow Boats > Traditional For Sale Called Capella could it be part of the butty GUCC small Woolwich Capella? If it a historic boat then it is very cheap? Hnboc site shows Capella as full length. I think it just shares the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 Canalplan boat listing shows 9 boats named Capella, plus 3 close variants. The one in the ad doesn't have the right shaped bow for a Woolwich, and doesn't look to be riveted. But if that is a Thornycroft RJ2 in it, it's an interesting historic engine in it's own right. https://m.facebook.com/vintagediesels/videos/1097886146930672/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 Capella is complete. Hydraulic helm installation, engine in cabin extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, roland elsdon said: Capella is complete. Hydraulic helm installation, engine in cabin extension. Yes I recall it being so accurately restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 Tony Harmer in Aylesbury. Looked at it, because we had Atalanta, didn’t do it, bought Thaxted instead..Double trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mike Adams said: Noticed this on Apollo duck 40Ft Vintage Narrow Boat £4,000 UK Narrow Boats > Traditional For Sale Called Capella could it be part of the butty GUCC small Woolwich Capella? If it a historic boat then it is very cheap? Hnboc site shows Capella as full length. "P/X for a Harley Davidson". I wonder if it's on a section 8 and the seller is looking for a swift and comfortable getaway before CRT contractors take it. Bows don't look anything like a GU boat to me and I think Capella is one of the butties with a hydraulic drive in the elum. BMC 1.8 ?. Could be interesting. Slightly odd that the images are screenshots rather than photos. ETA it was a bit awkward to find via the AD link maybe this one works better https://apolloduck.net/642096 Looks like a generic 1960s/70s wooden top narrow boat. Could be a colander. "this is not a small project. this boat has not had a hull test I have no history for this boat and can not answer any of your questions and what you see is what you get..." --- I'm like "has it got a full tank of diesel?" Edited November 8, 2020 by magnetman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 31/10/2020 at 21:00, Foggy66 said: Well I guess only time will tell ? I see Birmingham is listed on Apollo Duck again https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/narrow-boats-traditional/586858 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 I believe she has just sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire~rose Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) It's probably on auto renew, she changed hands today Edit to correct , it was actually today I learned she had changed hands Edited November 12, 2020 by cheshire~rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, Rob-M said: I see Birmingham is listed on Apollo Duck again https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/narrow-boats-traditional/586858 I am on this forum you know...best just ask me if your talking about my business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, allybsc said: I am on this forum you know...best just ask me if your talking about my business. ....... and how is anyone to know that? You show your boat name as "boatless at present" Nobody is talking about your business, does anybody know what your business is? I don't. Anyhoo, nobody was talking about you, they were interested in the boat and the subject matter is "Historic Boats". Not "Self important crabby owners of boats" On that theme, I think Birmingham is a stunning looking boat. Congratulations on your acquisition. If I see you out and about on the cut I shall ignore you. ....... you know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Allybsc was the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, zenataomm said: ....... and how is anyone to know that? You show your boat name as "boatless at present" Nobody is talking about your business, does anybody know what your business is? I don't. Anyhoo, nobody was talking about you, they were interested in the boat and the subject matter is "Historic Boats". Not "Self important crabby owners of boats" On that theme, I think Birmingham is a stunning looking boat. Congratulations on your acquisition. If I see you out and about on the cut I shall ignore you. ....... you know! I only changed my name to boatless at present after I posted that message and there is a picture of me on Birmingham as my avatar. I haven't bought it I've sold it after owning it since 2012. 3 minutes ago, zenataomm said: Anyhoo, nobody was talking about you, they were interested in the boat and the subject matter is "Historic Boats". Not "Self important crabby owners of boats" I may be crabby but I'm only selling because my husband died, I didn't want to sell it but it made no sense to keep it. Feel free to ignore me as is your right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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