noddyboater Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said: This is my experience too. Not sure I ever need to stand up straight in one and it always puzzles my why so many people find it such an issue. I can stand between roof beams and gear/speed rods which is handy when getting dressed etc, but as you say not essential. The only back cabin I’ve been in which had full headroom (hydraulic drive), wasn’t very nice as all the proportions are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 hours ago, noddyboater said: Of course that’s just the back cabin, everything forward of that you’ll be fine, and it’s a small price for having such a vessel. I’d suggest getting something with a nice heavy lump, a jp3 maybe, and a draught around 3’. Just don't try bringing it up the bloody Rochdale.... ... never again!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 A proper back cabin has the prop shaft under the floor and gear and throttle shafts below the ceiling. That don't leave much room for standing up, whatever height you are. Why do you want to stand up, anyway ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire~rose Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 It is accepted that the headroom in a back cabin is always going to be low but Delhi/Dehli has a lot of cabin that is not back cabin and it would be good to be able to stand up in that part. That was the bit I was enquiring about. I suspect what I really need to do is make enquiries about the cost of surgical procedures to shorten one's legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddyboater Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris Williams said: A proper back cabin has the prop shaft under the floor and gear and throttle shafts below the ceiling. That don't leave much room for standing up, whatever height you are. Why do you want to stand up, anyway ? To warm your bare backside on the range, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, noddyboater said: To warm your bare backside on the range, obviously. With your head sticking up through the hatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 8 hours ago, alan_fincher said: Just don't try bringing it up the bloody Rochdale.... ... never again!!! Oh that explains a picture I saw recently with half of Lancashire trying to pull Flamingo off some mud..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, mark99 said: Oh that explains a picture I saw recently with half of Lancashire trying to pull Flamingo off some mud..... And quite possibly failing... ... we did the Rochdale a few years ago in a "sensible" boat, but in Flamingo it is an order of magnitude harder, (honestly!). Edited June 5, 2019 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 hours ago, alan_fincher said: And quite possibly failing... ... we did the Rochdale a few years ago in a "sensible" boat, but in Flamingo it is an order of magnitude harder, (honestly!). Only the one... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Has "Liz" been mentioned in this thread yet? https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/bantock-bros-36-tug/595822 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Has "Liz" been mentioned in this thread yet? https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/bantock-bros-36-tug/595822 Yep. See: https://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/54625-historic-boats-for-sale-online/&do=findComment&comment=2266534 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, koukouvagia said: Yep. See: https://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/54625-historic-boats-for-sale-online/&do=findComment&comment=2266534 I used to like "Elizabeth", (as it was called before "re-branding") when it was a very basic boat on our local patch. However at this price... Edited June 6, 2019 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 I want liz but not at this price be more like 20k if that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Alvecote Marina website / brokerage is now showing BIRMINGHAM as deposit taken. Equally of interest is the Alvecote Marina Facebook page which shows KENT on the dock at Grendon yesterday, now deconverted and carrying Barlows lettering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 08/06/2019 at 22:07, pete harrison said: Alvecote Marina website / brokerage is now showing BIRMINGHAM as deposit taken. Equally of interest is the Alvecote Marina Facebook page which shows KENT on the dock at Grendon yesterday, now deconverted and carrying Barlows lettering yes they got a steal with Kent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Back in the 70's everyone was busy putting conversions onto working boats. That meant a lot of redundant masts, stands, etc.. I found a market for these in canalside pubs. I wonder how many are still around? Or have they been burnt, with all that nice lead-based paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 10/06/2019 at 15:54, billybobbooth said: yes they got a steal with Kent! Kent has just gone past me at Colwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) On 05/06/2019 at 13:12, Chris Williams said: A proper back cabin has the prop shaft under the floor and gear and throttle shafts below the ceiling. That don't leave much room for standing up, whatever height you are. Why do you want to stand up, anyway ? So the back cabin on my boat wasn't proper, then? ? edit: and even more pedantically, butty back cabins aren't "proper" either? Edited July 3, 2019 by FadeToScarlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 On 22/06/2019 at 19:00, Rob-M said: Kent has just gone past me at Colwich. from what I saw there doing a good job, I was on the edge of putting in an offer but couldn't justify price with the engine being shot as 2 wooden boats is fine but both with engine problems would have got me shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 53 minutes ago, billybobbooth said: from what I saw there doing a good job, I was on the edge of putting in an offer but couldn't justify price with the engine being shot as 2 wooden boats is fine but both with engine problems would have got me shot Having chatted with the new owner the engine was a simple repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Williams Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 3 hours ago, FadeToScarlet said: So the back cabin on my boat wasn't proper, then? ? edit: and even more pedantically, butty back cabins aren't "proper" either? What was different about your boat? Could you stand up in the cabin? Buttys don't normally have prop shafts or throttle shafts, so the comment doesn't apply to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimneyChain Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) 70ft Fellows, Morton & Clayton 'Josher' £38,000 UK Narrow Boats > Traditional For Sale Fellows Morton Clayton 70 Traditional For Sale UK Back to Search Results Alerts | Watch this Advert | Printer-friendly version Virginia Currer Marine Ltd The Boatyard, Mansion Lane, Iver, Buckinghamshire, SL0 9RG, UK Contact: Kerry Bolsom Telephone: Reveal Telephone Number Mobile: Reveal Mobile Phone Number Website: Visit Company Website View All Virginia Currer Marine Ltd Listings £38,000 | AED ALL AMD ANG ARS AUD AZN BBD BDT BGN BHD BIF BMD BND BOB BRL BSD BWP BYR BZD CAD CDF CHF CLP CNY COP CRC CVE CYP CZK DJF DKK DOP DZD ECS EGP ERN ETB EUR FJD FKP GBP GEL GHS GIP GMD GNF GTQ GYD HKD HNL HRK HTG HUF IDR ILS INR IQD IRR ISK JMD JOD JPY KES KGS KHR KMF KRW KRW KYD KZT LAK LBP LKR LSL LTL LVL LYD MAD MDL MGA MKD MMK MNT MOP MRO MUR MVR MWK MXN MYR MZN NAD NGN NIO NOK NPR NZD OMR PAB PEN PHP PKR PLN PYG QAR RON RSD RUB RWF SAR SBD SCR SDG SEK SGD SHP SIT SOS SRD STD SYP THB TND TOP TRY TWD TZS UAH UGX USD UYU VEF VND WST XCD XOF XPF YER ZAR ZMK Status: Available Location: London London UK [View Map] Reference: Falcon Website: Open website in new window Call Now Contact Seller Optional: Sign in to save this enquiry in your account Characters: 0 Insure this Boat Finance this Boat Transport this Boat Description History Falcon, the motor boat, was built by Fellows, Morton and Clayton Ltd (FMC) and first registered in September 1926. FMC was the biggest general canal carrying firm in Britain in the first half of the 20th Century, carrying all sorts of goods, both perishable and non-perishable, including coal, steel, minerals, timber, foodstuffs and so on. Their craft were known for their pleasing lines, still much admired even today, and nicknamed "Joshers" after their designer, Joshua Fellows. After Nationalisation in 1948, the Falcon was based in the Northwest and used mainly for maintenance duties. She was acquired by Willow Wren who wished to re-establish commercial canal transport but the bitter winter freeze-up of 1963 immobilised their fleet for 6 weeks, long enough for most of their trade to be permanently lost to road transport. They had renamed her "Sandpiper" and fitted her with a Lister SR3 and she continued to earn her living for Willow Wren, based in Rugby, as a holiday camping boat. The current owner bought her from Willow Wren in January 1981 and kept her on the Leek Arm of the Caldon Canal until she went in the early 1980s to Ian Kemp at Ellesmere Port for a complete restoration to the original FMC build and decor, minus the elm bottom, which had been replaced by Willow Wren with a rivetted steel bottom, using the original chines. A Lister JP2 was bought from an ex-Waterways employee in Middlewich and fitted during the restoration which was complete by 1986 and featured in the Waterways World magazine. Falcon is paired up with the butty Venice and would be ideal to be sold together, The pair toured much of the canal system between their maiden "voyage" together in 2004 until 2013, when they moved from Saltford near Bath to their current base at London. 70ft Fellows, Morton 70ft Fellows, Morton 70ft Fellows, Morton 70ft Fellows, Morton Specifications Builder: Fellows Morton Clayton Make: Fellows Morton Clayton Model: 70 Traditional Year constructed: 1926 No. of engines: 1 Engine model: Lister JP Fuel type: Diesel Length over all: 70' Beam: 7' Engine(s) Engine: Lister JP Inverter: Pure sine wave 1000w Charger: Sterling 24amp Solar panels on roof Construction Material / build: Rivetted Steel Traditional Boatman’s cabin at the aft end, Traditional canvas covering the rest of the vessel, this as been partially refitted with wood structure, windows and white painted Tongue and groove. Interior. The interior is partially converted, currently comprises a solid fuel stove, sink, water tank and materials. Fully fitted boatman’s cabin at the aft end. This boat has not been cleared and personal possessions will be removed prior to sale. 70ft Fellows, Morton 70ft Fellows, Morton Certification Virginia Currer Marine Ltd are professional brokers, and are full accredited members of:- ABYA - Association of Brokers and Yacht Agents BMF - British Marine Federation BRBA - Boat Retailers and Brokers Association BUYING THROUGH AN ACCREDITED BROKER AFFORDS A HIGH LEVEL OF BUYER PROTECTION Edited July 3, 2019 by ChimneyChain Can’t just copy a link sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Is there an ad for Venice too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Just now, ChimneyChain said: Can’t just copy a link sorry http://vcmarine.co.uk/boat-sales/falcon-70-fellows-morton-clayton-josher/ Just now, matty40s said: Is there an ad for Venice too?? http://vcmarine.co.uk/boat-sales/venice-converted-butty/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, TheBiscuits said: http://vcmarine.co.uk/boat-sales/falcon-70-fellows-morton-clayton-josher/ http://vcmarine.co.uk/boat-sales/venice-converted-butty/ £69k for Venice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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