dave moore Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 The interior was fitted by Trevor Ward, a superb craftsman at Norton Canes. His work, if slow, was meticulous. Lining timbers received 4 or 5 coats of varnish on the inside face, 6 or 7 on the visible side. He was also a fine coach painter, one of the old school, sadly no longer with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Tim Lewis said: From Facebook it would appear that Prince and Bakewell are up for sale got link?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Tim Lewis said: From Facebook it would appear that Prince and Bakewell are up for sale I thought they had only been offered on a closed group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 19 hours ago, PeterG said: I still do not understand why there are not more pictures with the advert, 3 is not enough? Probably because Di has more than enough on her plate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivergate Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 ..can anyone share a ink to the sale/ pictures please. ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrowcycles Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F302791044812 Here's an interesting one. Underneath the houseboat conversion is apparently a Manchester ship canal barge, I'm not sure myself but I'd love to know what it really is. Edited July 3, 2018 by sparrowcycles Forgot photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) DEHLI: https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat.phtml?id=573513 edit = I am not quite sure what "Traditional boatman's cabin with 'scumbling', 'roses and castles' and other period LMS features" means as DEHLI was built as an open cabinless horse boat - but it is nice to see an advert with plenty of photographs. Edited July 5, 2018 by pete harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, pete harrison said: it is nice to see an advert with plenty of photographs. Not only that, the advertiser has listed all its details three times over, just in case we miss them the first twice. How very thorough. What does he mean when he says that the engine was "zero timed"? That apart, it's a boat which will turn quite few heads. Edited July 5, 2018 by Athy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movin' on Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Athy said: Not only that, the advertiser has listed all its details three times over, just in case we miss them the first twice. How very thorough. What does he mean when he says that the engine was "zero timed"? That apart, it's a boat which will turn quite few heads. Agreed - she’s a beauty ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Nice boat, must have an awful lot of ballast to hit 25 ton! I'd be interested to know what zero timing is, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, BWM said: I'd be interested to know what zero timing is, however. Yes indeed. Perhaps the engine does not run at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I recall that Listers inject so many degrees before tdc, does this mean it's retarded to zero degrees tdc? If so why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, zenataomm said: I recall that Listers inject so many degrees before tdc, does this mean it's retarded to zero degrees tdc? I don't know what tdc is, either! Perhaps I too am retarded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'm intrigued to see the width claimed as 6ft 10in too. I thought boats back in the day were built to 7ft 1/2in or thereabouts, then only ever got fatter. Very nice boat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Athy said: I don't know what tdc is, either! Perhaps I too am retarded... Top dead centre, when the piston is at maximum upward travel. Fuel is usually injected at a few degrees before TDC so it gets compressed before ignition. Edited July 5, 2018 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: I'm intrigued to see the width claimed as 6ft 10in too. I thought boats back in the day were built to 7ft 1/2in or thereabouts, then only ever got fatter. Very nice boat though. When B.C.N. gauged (BCN1606 - 29 May 1930 and named as DELHI) DEHLI had a measured beam of 7'1'' - but having being built into what it is now I suppose it could be any beam the owner wanted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 49 minutes ago, BWM said: Nice boat, must have an awful lot of ballast to hit 25 ton! I'd be interested to know what zero timing is, however. When I asked at Brinklow what they thought "Dlamingo" might weigh, I think 25 tons was the answer given. It seems to be a typical number for a converted boat that is well down at the front, which this one apperas to be. I notice it is "£85,000 firm" - it looks a very well presented boat, but one professional surveyor that I talked to suggested it is almost unknown for a historic to fetch that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, pete harrison said: When B.C.N. gauged (BCN1606 - 29 May 1930 and named as DELHI) DEHLI had a measured beam of 7'1'' - but having being built into what it is now I suppose it could be any beam the owner wanted Yes there must be very little of the orginal DELHI left. Just a bow and a hull sides to a little over half way back I'd guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, pete harrison said: When B.C.N. gauged (BCN1606 - 29 May 1930 and named as DELHI) DEHLI had a measured beam of 7'1'' - but having being built into what it is now I suppose it could be any beam the owner wanted It's very usual, as I understand it for a boat that has been no more than a bare hull, and has had its bottom and footings replaced, as well as an all new back end, to be pulled in to be a "go anywhere" boat. It probably really is only 6' 10" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, alan_fincher said: It's very usual, as I understand it for a boat that has been no more than a bare hull, and has had its bottom and footings replaced, as well as an all new back end, to be pulled in to be a "go anywhere" boat. It probably really is only 6' 10" now. Still 60ft long though. Does that actually count as 'go anywhere'? Does the team know when the counter stern and cabin were added? The advert doesn't say AFAICS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, pete harrison said: . . . it is nice to see an advert with plenty of photographs. Agreed. Also I reckon it's a very fair asking price. I've no doubt it'll sell quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Yes there must be very little of the orginal DELHI left. Just a bow and a hull sides to a little over half way back I'd guess. As built DEHLI was a full length horse boat, with its length recorded on BCN1606 as 69'11. This boat was cut in two in 1959 when the fore end became the hire cruiser WATER VIPER. An instruction at that time made it clear that the stern was not to be converted, and although there is much speculation by 'enthusiasts' I have seen no evidence of what became of the stern section (although I have my suspicion). Once sold into private ownership WATER VIPER was renamed CHARIENE, a name it carried into the early 2000's - but confusingly there is also an LMSR stern end named CHARIENE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 22 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I notice it is "£85,000 firm" - it looks a very well presented boat, but one professional surveyor that I talked to suggested it is almost unknown for a historic to fetch that much. Perhaps because, as you suggest in another post, there is not much left of it which is truly historic. Were it a recent replica by a top builder, few would blench at the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Athy said: Perhaps because, as you suggest in another post, there is not much left of it which is truly historic. I'm not sure I've suggested that, because I don't actually know this boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: I'm not sure I've suggested that, because I don't actually know this boat! MEA CULPA! It wasn't you, it was your Alvecote boat-jousting rival! My apologies. Edited July 5, 2018 by Athy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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