Gardner 4lk fuel filter

[Chris Pink]

I've been asked to look at a 4LK that appears to have a fuel problem, I won't get hold of the manual until Sunday and I'd like to get the filters first.

 

The owner says they only changed the external double-headed CAV filter last service. I can get the numbers for these.

 

Is there an engine mounted filter? Gardner enthusiast doesn't list the 4LK. If so does anyone have the number? If it's the same as the 4LW I have the number for that.

 

Ps what's the difference between the L, LK, LX and LW ? Is there a gardner history site anywhere?

 

I must confess to finding gardners quite daunting. Manuals with graphs in them and "give this manual to the ship's engineer" on the frontispiece.

[Albion]

I've been asked to look at a 4LK that appears to have a fuel problem, I won't get hold of the manual until Sunday and I'd like to get the filters first.

 

The owner says they only changed the external double-headed CAV filter last service. I can get the numbers for these.

 

Is there an engine mounted filter? Gardner enthusiast doesn't list the 4LK. If so does anyone have the number? If it's the same as the 4LW I have the number for that.

 

Ps what's the difference between the L, LK, LX and LW ? Is there a gardner history site anywhere?

 

I must confess to finding gardners quite daunting. Manuals with graphs in them and "give this manual to the ship's engineer" on the frontispiece.

Yes there is a small fuel filter enclosed in the small domed housing (on the side)that you can see in this picture of my 4LK on Albion

4LK

I can't remember the number as I got a whole boxful of them while I worked in the garage business and never needed to buy more and that would have been in 2001, a long time ago.

I'll leave the other answers to those more expert than me.

 

Roger

Edited January 25, 2013 by Albion

[Timleech]

Yes there is a small fuel filter enclosed in the small domed housing (on the side)that you can see in this picture of my 4LK on Albion

4LK

I can't remember the number as I got a whole boxful of them while I worked in the garage business and never needed to buy more and that would have been in 2001, a long time ago.

I'll leave the other answers to those more expert than me.

 

Roger

 

It's the same filter as fitted to most other Gardners for a long time.

Originally a multi-layered bronze gauze cylinder, latterly a disposable paper element. A little thing with a spring on top, no idea of part numbers but LW fuel filter should lead you to one.

 

Tim

[Chris Pink]

For those that come after it looks like cooper AZF023 but if the same as a 4lw I have the numbers. I'll post them here later.

 

The picture is very useful. Thank you.

 

And what's with the different LK, LW etc?

[Timleech]

For those that come after it looks like cooper AZF023 but if the same as a 4lw I have the numbers. I'll post them here later.

 

The picture is very useful. Thank you.

 

Gardner number L21765

 

Here's one source:-

 

http://www.hgvdirect.co.uk/catalog/erf-e10-fuel-filter-p-1465.html

 

Tim

 

For those that come after it looks like cooper AZF023 but if the same as a 4lw I have the numbers. I'll post them here later.

 

The picture is very useful. Thank you.

And what's with the different LK, LW etc?

 

 

Sorry, I don't understand the question?

 

Tim

[Chris Pink]

What's the difference between a 4LK and a 4LW and 4LX ?

 

Not the details but the broader picture?

 

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I've asked this question before ;-) only it was a 4LW that time so if they're the same I apologise for being dippy.

Edited January 25, 2013 by Chris Pink

[Timleech]

What's the difference between a 4LK and a 4LW and 4LX ?

 

Not the details but the broader picture?

 

4LK is a small, lightweight, high speed engine (all terms relative to other Gardners).

About 7 cwt from what I remember (basic engine) against half a ton minimum for a 4LW, similar horsepower but higher rpm for the LK. Also much more fiddly to work on.

There wasn't, to the best of my knowledge, ever a 4LX but there were 6LX and 8LX (and LXB). These were a development from the LW, slightly bigger capacity and significantly higher power, not many common parts. 180 bhp for the 6LXB, against around 112 for the 6LW (from memory).

 

The 4LK was used in some car conversions (MkIX Jag, Lagonda spring to mind), also in the RN midget submarines.

Gardners stopped supporting the LK in the 1960s, and there are particular problems with timing gear which uses a 7/16" pitch triplex chain, obsolete since about the same time.

 

 

Tim

Edited January 25, 2013 by Timleech

[Chris Pink]

That makes more sense. I've seen a few 4LKs and I always thought my 4LW similar (in my defence it's mounted higher so you're looking up at it from an unusual angle) but now you mention it....

 

Is there anything written about Gardner history?

[Albion]

That makes more sense. I've seen a few 4LKs and I always thought my 4LW similar (in my defence it's mounted higher so you're looking up at it from an unusual angle) but now you mention it....

 

Is there anything written about Gardner history?

The are two books that I have about the history of L Gardner and Sons:-

 

The first is a book that they produced to celebrate their centenary in 1968 called Gardners of Patricroft 1868-1968. Published for Gardners by Newman Neame Ltd but almost impossible to find now I would think. I bought mine years ago and I had to source it via specialist, second-hand book sellers even then.

 

The second is more likely to be still available called Gardner - L Gardner and Sons Limited - Legendary Engineering Excellence by Graham Edge in the Transport Archive Series. Published by Gingerfold Publications in 2002.

 

Both these books are a good read and packed with evocative photos and information.

Roger

Edited January 25, 2013 by Albion