Guest Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Thank you and no, one of my cats is still residing on land having had it's collar (with bell) and microchip ignored. I'm still battling with the police but it's looking increasingly like I have to mourn this one as a loss. Our tom Harvey has developed a knack for removing his collar and bell - I have no idea how he does it (or if someone is doing it) but we must have been through about 4 or 5 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 ... Thank you and no, one of my cats is still residing on land having had it's collar (with bell) and microchip ignored. I'm still battling with the police but it's looking increasingly like I have to mourn this one as a loss. oh man that sucks i'm sorry to hear it. can you sue the people who have it for its return or is it hopeless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chertsey Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) I think the correct term is native Australian nowadays, but I may be wrong and probably have caused massive offence to someone, wiki refers to 'Indigenous Australians' however. My point being, if Ron ain't one of them (which I was fairly sure he wasn't), then he himself was an import from Britain, just like the rabbits and the cats, quite possibly equally wreaking havoc on the native ecosystem.. It would be intresting to see how she arrived at any believable conclusion either way.A cross section of boaters cats,some probably wouldn't venture of the boat yet those belonging to some of the owners would be straight into the bush doing what we all know most cats are good at.Cats will play with whatever they catch then kill it drop it then if still in the mood look for aomething else. You can rest assured that if it was for a PhD the research methodology would have been rigorous. And it is boat cats we are talking about here. Edited July 10, 2012 by Chertsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chertsey Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Thanks Leonie, for explaining why Ron holds the views he does - Ron, now please take note that your experience and knowledge is not applicable to Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkshall Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Make yourself more aware Chertsey.Certain birds alone is enough,not to mention your voles,bats and other moggie playthings. I agree with you there unless it's in a bucket[just kitting everything should be put down humanely]. Rabbits and cats are a pest here, introduced by you lot. No! I'll be there shortly and they are not your canals.I'll have a beer with you,stroke your cat but if it pads past my space with a crested newt or natrix natrix hanging out of it's vile jaws I'll report it immediatly.That last comment has really p***** me off,stay away!you need every dollar you can get to keep those canals going.If I was bringing my own beer and food and a bag full of cat traps fair enough.Do you follow your cat around with a bag Chertsey? our dosen't cat poo stink and stick to your footware?Starting to ramble off for a beer. Thanks for the warning Gaggle.Could do with a couple of spells.Can they predict lotto numbers? or are they limited to catatstrophes. Introduced by us lot eh?, you mean YOUR ancestors don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 My point being, if Ron ain't one of them (which I was fairly sure he wasn't), then he himself was an import from Britain, just like the rabbits and the cats, quite possibly equally wreaking havoc on the native ecosystem. Cheers yes I know - but your post just set off me being curious about the 'correct' term. It seems there are at least a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadeToScarlet Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Whether Britons, as a nation, can be classified as animal lovers is an interesting point. I believe there is a single Devon donkey sanctuary that had more wealth than the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children; and we had an RSPCA and RSPB before an NSPCC, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonie Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Our tom Harvey has developed a knack for removing his collar and bell - I have no idea how he does it (or if someone is doing it) but we must have been through about 4 or 5 now. The collars I buy for my cats are about eight quid each because I have them printed with 'I LIVE ON A BOAT' plus my phone number. My cat loses a lot of them too. There are three usual scenarios in which she loses them; the main one is fighting with other cats. Then there is member of public wants to pick her up, she doesn't want to be picked up, so they grab the collar and lastly there is the getting stuck on brambles scenarios. It's expensive but think of what you'd be willing to pay if your cat disappeared because someone thought they were a stray... oh man that sucks i'm sorry to hear it. can you sue the people who have it for its return or is it hopeless? It's really sad. I can sue (at great cost to me) but they are likely to retain custody of my cat because of the length of time they've now had him and what's in 'the cats best interest'. Maddening. I have one last ditch meeting with the police tomorrow night. They agree he's my cat/property but there is nowt they can/will do about it. Whether Britons, as a nation, can be classified as animal lovers is an interesting point. I believe there is a single Devon donkey sanctuary that had more wealth than the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children; and we had an RSPCA and RSPB before an NSPCC, I believe. That's my outside opinion having lived in a few countries now. Spend a week in any other European city to see parks crawling with cats that nobody cares about. That wouldn't happen here. Someone would rescue and spay them. I remember reading somewhere that the charities that receive the highest contribution here are animal ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 It's really sad. I can sue (at great cost to me) but they are likely to retain custody of my cat because of the length of time they've now had him and what's in 'the cats best interest'. Maddening. I have one last ditch meeting with the police tomorrow night. They agree he's my cat/property but there is nowt they can/will do about it. If they are entitled to steal your cat is there any reason you can't steal it back and then go boating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonie Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 If they are entitled to steal your cat is there any reason you can't steal it back and then go boating? No reason whatsoever and it was what the police actually advised me to do. Yes, really. They also helpfully provided me with the address so that I can pursue Civil Action. Now I have to risk assess the situation and see how brave I am :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chertsey Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) The collars I buy for my cats are about eight quid each because I have them printed with 'I LIVE ON A BOAT' plus my phone number. My cat loses a lot of them too. There are three usual scenarios in which she loses them; the main one is fighting with other cats. Then there is member of public wants to pick her up, she doesn't want to be picked up, so they grab the collar and lastly there is the getting stuck on brambles scenarios. It's expensive but think of what you'd be willing to pay if your cat disappeared because someone thought they were a stray... I sew up circles of 10mm elastic to fit comfortably round his neck and write NB CHERTSEY and my mobile no. on them in big black indelible letters. Only use them when we're travelling. So far he's not lost one but could easily wriggle out if caught on something and I have a big supply of spares. Edited July 10, 2012 by Chertsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonie Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 I sew up circles of 10mm elastic to fit comfortably round his neck and write NB CHERTSEY and my mobile no. on them in big black indelible letters. Only use them when we're travelling. So far he's not lost one but could easily wriggle out if caught on something and I have a big supply of spares. That sounds really clever (and a whole hell of a lot cheaper)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 ... It's really sad. I can sue (at great cost to me) but they are likely to retain custody of my cat because of the length of time they've now had him and what's in 'the cats best interest'. Maddening. I have one last ditch meeting with the police tomorrow night. They agree he's my cat/property but there is nowt they can/will do about it. good luck I sew up circles of 10mm elastic to fit comfortably round his neck and write NB CHERTSEY and my mobile no. on them in big black indelible letters. Only use them when we're travelling. So far he's not lost one but could easily wriggle out if caught on something and I have a big supply of spares. I think my sewing skills are up to that - thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonie Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 good luck Thought I should pop in and update you on my meeting with the rozzers last night. To my utter astonishment, they are 'reopening' the investigation into the theft of me cat and will be looking to prove the guilt of the woman who took him by showing that you can actually feel the chip in his shoulder etc. There are no guarantees at all that I'll get him back but this is the most promissing step of the shenanigans so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon&jan Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Why dont they just use the bloody scanner ,then it should show your name and address, job done . No need to feel for it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonie Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Why dont they just use the bloody scanner ,then it should show your name and address, job done . No need to feel for it ? I might not have phrased that very well. That the cat is chipped and scans with my details is not in doubt. They are trying to prove 'dishonesty' on the part of the woman who currently has him. To do this they want to show that the chip was obvious and that by not taking him to a vet to be scanned, she was being dishonest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I might not have phrased that very well. That the cat is chipped and scans with my details is not in doubt. They are trying to prove 'dishonesty' on the part of the woman who currently has him. To do this they want to show that the chip was obvious and that by not taking him to a vet to be scanned, she was being dishonest. Surely now that she knows the cat is yours she is depriving you of your "property" so, even if she didn't deliberately steal the cat initially, now she knows it has become theft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonie Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Surely now that she knows the cat is yours she is depriving you of your "property" so, even if she didn't deliberately steal the cat initially, now she knows it has become theft? This is the point I've been taking back to the police again and again. I have subsequently learned that cats are considered property by the way so no need for the quotation marks. Fingers crossed now they act on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I have subsequently learned that cats are considered property by the way so no need for the quotation marks. I know but when I had a cat I always felt that I was his property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonie Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I know but when I had a cat I always felt that I was his property. Ha! You have me on a technicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I know but when I had a cat I always felt that I was his property. servant morelike That's good news leonie, do keep us updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon&jan Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I might not have phrased that very well. That the cat is chipped and scans with my details is not in doubt. They are trying to prove 'dishonesty' on the part of the woman who currently has him. To do this they want to show that the chip was obvious and that by not taking him to a vet to be scanned, she was being dishonest. Oh i see , but the chip is not obvious , size of a grain of rice ,because they are injected in a large syringe ! Jan used to do it at work , sorry about delay there laying flooring ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcoaster Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 The chip can sometimes be felt, depending on the location, if it's migrated and how close under the skin it is. (I have also chipped numerous animals myself, and actually have a microchip in my arm too- but my stupidity while I was a student veterinary nurse is a whole other story. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I know but when I had a cat I always felt that I was his property. the adage is... Dog's have owners, cat's have staff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 01 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) the adage is... Dog's have owners, cat's have staff.... I saw the following poster in a pet shop: "A dog will obey orders - a cat will take a message and get back to you" (that sounds just like our cat) I hope it all works out quickly for you Leonie. Ann Edited July 13, 2012 by Ace 01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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