aracer Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: I am not altogether sure the Sherpa ever had a 1.8 like we use, but maybe early ones did. The fuel filter should be the equivalent of a CAV 296. It's what was recommended up thread, and on Wikipedia it also suggests the Sherpa used a B series 1.8 diesel. ECP also lets me specify Sherpa 1986 1.8 diesel which is what I did! Anyway what I've just ordered is a Mann 916/1 which seems to be equivalent to Fram PH2857 as suggested above (strangely enough it's what's in the picture at https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Filters-Lube/SpinOn/3-4.16UN/FFR-PH2857 ) - at least that's what the ECP picture of what I ordered is - https://www.eurocarparts.com/search/501590059 Edited November 16, 2018 by aracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Sam Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Suspect that you bought a later Sherpa filter, its got a totally different engine, it was called LDV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 30 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: I am not altogether sure the Sherpa ever had a 1.8 like we use, but maybe early ones did. The fuel filter should be the equivalent of a CAV 296. Early Sherpas definitely used the BMC B series 1800 engine. It always used to amuse me that my boat engine could have had an earlier life working for BW. The diesel version of that van must have been a real sluggard, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 They must have really struggled up mountains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Sam Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 They were quite good actually. We used one as a rally support vehicle. The achilles heel was that they turned over a bit often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: Early Sherpas definitely used the BMC B series 1800 engine. It always used to amuse me that my boat engine could have had an earlier life working for BW. The diesel version of that van must have been a real sluggard, surely? Some 1.8 BMC Sherpas were Rated at 50 BHP and revved to 4400 RPM.have never driven one but would guess they were not too awful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aracer Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boater Sam said: Suspect that you bought a later Sherpa filter, its got a totally different engine, it was called LDV Well on ECP I put 1986 Freight Rover Sherpa 1.8 diesel, which according to all information I've found should be have B series AKA BMC 1.8. I suspect the ECP system is wrong. Anyway the one I got fits perfectly - so if anybody else wants to order from ECP then select 1980 MGB GT 1.8 Just need to check the fuel filter now - I guess that's likely to be wrong as well. Edited November 16, 2018 by aracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Sam Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Do ensure that the filter you use not only fits but has the anti drain back rubber flap valve, visible in the holes in the base plate. Without this, oil pressure takes a lot longer to come up on starting, bad for the bearings and camshaft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aracer Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 There was certainly something behind the holes - I'm assuming that was it. It's a Mann filter which seems to be generally recommended - the most expensive option at ECP, but the difference is pennies (and having managed to find a better discount code than when I bought the original I actually got a refund ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.k Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 No boat should have only one fuel filter.......you should have a primary filter with a big enough element to handle water ,and preferably doubled up with a change over tap,and a final filter to protect the injector pump.I know 296 elements are widely used,but I have never liked them ,due to the ease of getting the gasket out of place,when changed in the dark,or with the boat rolling. And here a bit of advice.................never fit one of the glass sediment bowls to a 296,they often break just from stress,or a touch from a spanner............if you must have a sedimenter,use the alloy one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 3 hours ago, john.k said: No boat should have only one fuel filter.......you should have a primary filter with a big enough element to handle water ,and preferably doubled up with a change over tap,and a final filter to protect the injector pump.I know 296 elements are widely used,but I have never liked them ,due to the ease of getting the gasket out of place,when changed in the dark,or with the boat rolling. And here a bit of advice.................never fit one of the glass sediment bowls to a 296,they often break just from stress,or a touch from a spanner............if you must have a sedimenter,use the alloy one. Except if the thing has a 296 element its an agglomerator, not a seddimentor and in my view an agglomerator should not be the first water trap because the element will block far easier than a sedimentor that uses an inverted cone to cyclone larger dirt and water droplets out of the fuel. Any filter will act as an agglomerator so the engine filter will deal with the remaining 20% of water that would be very small droplets. I have a sedimentor & agglomerator in series on the fuel supply pipe to be sure. I agree about the glass bowls plus in many cases it could be a BSS failure without documents to prove its fire resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 15 hours ago, Boater Sam said: Suspect that you bought a later Sherpa filter, its got a totally different engine, it was called LDV Quite correct, the later ones had the Perkins Prima derived engine ( also fitted in the Montego) and some later ones even had a Peugeot 1.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Esk Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Flyboy said: Quite correct, the later ones had the Perkins Prima derived engine ( also fitted in the Montego) and some later ones even had a Peugeot 1.9. Yep, I had one of the later ones and that had the Peugeot 1.9. Bought it from the Rothen group, got it back to the garage and changed the timing belt and did a full service. Surprised, when changing fuel filter, to find it was running on red. Obviously someone had made a mistake....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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