Stirling power products

[Kristian]

Ok Just bought a Battery Desulphation Unit from stirling, the manual states: "The Pro Pulse can be used on any battery bank size, simply connect it accross the battery bank and leave it, Connect the Black cable to the Negative of the battery, and the Red cable to the

positive".

However it does not state were to connect the wires if you have more that one battery? I cant see that it makes any differnce as all the batteries are wired

together to make one big battery bank, in my case 4x140Ah.

So heres how ive connected it, the red lead to the + terminal on the first battery, and the black lead to the - terminal fourth battery.

If anyone can see a problems with this please let me know, Only want views for clarification purposes as the first unit lasted only 2wks, just want to

make sure it not me doing something wrong!!

Thanks Kristian.

[classicstove]

maybe worth a call to Sterling on Tuesday and see what they say - if this one 'ceases to work' then there is no arguement to the installation

[classicstove]

maybe worth a call to Sterling on Tuesday and see what they say - if this one 'ceases to work' then there is no arguement to the installation

[bottle]

Connections should be to the opposite ends of the battery bank as should your take off cables.

[MikeV]

If you think your batteries are already sulphated I would connect the desulphator across one battery and keep it there for about a week as you charge/use the batteries. Then move it along to the next battery and so on. It will have a slightly greater chance of making a difference if it's coupled as closely as possible to the battery.

 

If you're just trying to prevent sulphation then I'd connect across the whole bank.

 

Gibbo used to say they were a waste of space although I appeared to get a fairly good increase in capacity from connecting it to my battery bank, but without a control set up exactly the same without a desulphator, it's impossible to say if that was directly attributable to the desulphator.

 

My batteries were already at least 4-5 years old and showing signs of age when I attached the desulphator. I actually had it connected across one battery as I'd made it with thick, short cables. In the end it was the battery with the desulphator connected to it that failed first whereupon I replaced the whole bank. Again, whether this was as a direct result of having the desulphator connected, I don't know.

[Nickhlx]

Are they 4 x 6V batteries in series, making a 24 volt bank or 4 x 12V batteries, all in parallel, making a 12 volt bank ?

 

and...

 

Does the gizmo work on both 12 volt and 24 volt batteries ?

 

Does it say "how it works" in the instructions ? Some seem/claim to work by generating RF spikes at about 3 MHz which is supposed to "blow them crystals to bits".

 

Nick

[Kristian]

Connections should be to the opposite ends of the battery bank as should your take off cables.

Thats exactly how its wired in, same as the take off cables, just for the recored i had this unit some months but the batteries are now all new!!

Hopefully "Great success"

[Arthur Brown]

If the batteries are new why are you using a de sulphater? Charger the batteries properly and keep them topped up.

[bottle]

As above post, new batteries do not need a de-sulphator just charging properly.

 

Never let them get below 50% SOC (State Of Charge) and ideally always charge to 100% SOC.

 

Being realistic 100% is not always possible, it takes a long time and has a cost involved, always charge to a SOC as high as possible.

 

It is relatively easy to get the batteries to 95% but that last 5% takes a long, long time.

 

For more info have a look at GIbbo's site: http://www.smartgauge.co.uk/ and click on 'Technical Info' at the top.

[Chris Pink]

? Charger the batteries properly and keep them topped up.

 

If it was that easy would it cause so much discussion?

[Kristian]

If it was that easy would it cause so much discussion?

 

Nice to see someone with a common sense answer! Im not on mains power just solar and a small geni, keeping them 100% charged will always be hard.

As for why have i fitted this item if the batteries are new, which I think is abit of a daft thing to say, the whole ponit is to prevent battery sulfation

in the first place..........."prevention is better than cure", well thats the theory! Kristian.

[bottle]

You will not prevent sulphation just reduce it..

 

Prevention is better than cure and the way to prevent it ( actually reduce it) is to charge the batteries correctly.

 

I have a generator/charger and no solar am a CCer regularly charge batteries, not to 100% but as near as possible usually about 95% and then do a charge to 100% maybe once a fortnight.

[pistnbroke]

These de sulphaters are built into the chargers for items like fork lifts where the discharge each day is well over 50 % and clearly helps the recovery from deeper discharge .The fork lift makers and battery suppliers would not endorse them /validate the warrantee if it was not to there advantage.

[tosher]

These de sulphaters are built into the chargers for items like fork lifts where the discharge each day is well over 50 % and clearly helps the recovery from deeper discharge .The fork lift makers and battery suppliers would not endorse them /validate the warrantee if it was not to there advantage.

 

These de-sulphaters were discussed on the forum quite some time ago and I seem to remember some knowledgable person posting saying that the more expensive Sterling multistep chargers have this facility built in. Anyone remember that?

[Kristian]

These de-sulphaters were discussed on the forum quite some time ago and I seem to remember some knowledgable person posting saying that the more expensive Sterling multistep chargers have this facility built in. Anyone remember that?

Thats right they do, have a look at the Sterling web site and it tells you not to bother buying a de-sulphater if you have one of their chargers, I dont,(mastervolt) however for 40 notes you can't complain! and its a "fit and forget" item!

Edited January 4, 2012 by Kristian

[Smelly]

Thats right they do, have a look at the Sterling web site and it tells you not to bother buying a de-sulphater if you have one of their chargers, I dont,(mastervolt) however for 40 notes you can't complain! and its a "fit and forget" item!

 

Forty quid; mine was 26.95; admittedly 4 years ago...

[Kristian]

Forty quid; mine was 26.95; admittedly 4 years ago...

Not any more, £52...

http://www.midlandchandlers.co.uk/Products/Electrical/ChargingManagement/Desulphation/Vr006.aspx