Doorman Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) My observation, for what it's worth, is that given the interest in the OP's original question of 'Where's Gibbo', could there be an opening for a similar publication to the 'Where's Wally' set of books, whereby we could continue this question on a more entertaining basis. All sales proceeds could go to the 'Abolish The PC Brigade' fund. Their time is hopefully over and a more sensible alternative must surely follow! Mike Edited October 20, 2011 by Doorman
MoominPapa Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 It's worth pointing out that Gibbo wasn't banned: he can post here whenever he wants to. The only thing that was removed was an off-colour joke: it was Gibbo's choice to make that into his complete absence from the forum. I'm ambivalent about the whole forum censorship debate: I can't agree with people who need their feelings protecting from postings on a public forum, but I do like action from the mods which keeps the forum as a whole at least vaguely on topic. I don't mind being insulted, but I do object to having my time wasted. Maybe that's because personally, I'm rarely insulted online, but I do have to wade through a great deal of crap on a daily basis to get to the stuff I want to read. MP.
carlt Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 I'm ambivalent about the whole forum censorship debate: I can't agree with people who need their feelings protecting from postings on a public forum, but I do like action from the mods which keeps the forum as a whole at least vaguely on topic. I don't mind being insulted, but I do object to having my time wasted. Maybe that's because personally, I'm rarely insulted online, but I do have to wade through a great deal of crap on a daily basis to get to the stuff I want to read. Whilst I agree with you, from the point of view of an adult, I believe that there is some material that my children should be protected from and, for that reason, expect a website that professes to be "family orientated" to remove inappropriate material.
deletedaccount Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 The internet's a big place and just like the real world there are appropriate modes of behaviour depending where you are.
Chris Pink Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 I don't think it was the diagram but your use of batts, separating them and, charging in diverse ways totally against conventional and Gibbo wisdom which, to my mind is one of the plusses of his absence. Discussions on electricity are much less dogmatic and "if I'm not seen as god I'll insult you until you shut up". Especially on the use of batteries, he completely refused to see that although he could expound the theoretical 'best practice' for battery charging it didn't match how people compromise in the real world and that they might just have a different point of view. DeanS and Robin2 come to mind. They may not have the expertise of Gibbo but that is no reason to shout them down and shouting people down is what Gibbo was best at, way and above his electrical abilities. I think the electricity part of the forum is a quieter and better place for his, and ChrisW's absence. If anybody wants Gibbo's specialist knowledge then they can send him a message. Most of his information is still here and many posters who learnt from him, myself included, are intelligent enough to retain and retail that knowledge.
Nine of Hearts Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 So if he'd said "I'm only going to give advice on this forum if my avatar can be a photo of my penis." would you have said this is a price worth paying? It would contravene the house rules, but if this were not the private domain it is and we weren't bound under our own agreement by such things, Yes. What would be wrong with that? He could also use a picture of his thumb, if he wanted to. At least it would end this kind pernicious speculation: More like about:blank Hmmm. I wonder, am I to assume it's ok to make snide references to others' genitalia when you have disagreed with them? Can we all play this game? I suspect not, and await a flood of double standards to justify why this is the case.
Chertsey Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 People have the right to say whatever they like; this does not mean that Daniel has a duty to publish it. Censorship is a strong word. Censorship is done by governments with the power of the state behind them. What Dan and the mods, as publishers, are doing is not censorship but selection. If I write a monograph about big Woolwiches, and Mills and Boon decline to publish it, have I been censored? Or should I just take it to a more appropriate publisher. 1
carlt Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Yes. What would be wrong with that? Nothing at all, on a website that permits such things.
Albion Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Hmmm. I wonder, am I to assume it's ok to make snide references to others' genitalia when you have disagreed with them? Can we all play this game? I suspect not, and await a flood of double standards to justify why this is the case. What a shame I've run our of greenies. One rule for some and another for others perhaps? It was unecessary and somewhat below the standards that we should expect, particularly from a mod. Roger
Evo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Wheres Gibbo...?????? He was deliberately naughty (no argument) and now he's Sulking..!
Lady Muck Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 What a shame I've run our of greenies. One rule for some and another for others perhaps? It was unecessary and somewhat below the standards that we should expect, particularly from a mod. Roger I'm on the naughty step then?
carlt Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Wheres Gibbo...?????? He was deliberately naughty (no argument) and now he's Sulking..! That is, of course, assuming that he regards the forum as worth sulking about. I believe he did the right thing in leaving, if his principles meant that he couldn't post on boaty matters if he wasn't allowed to post mucky jokes. They may seem like unusual principles to some but they are obviously important to him.
Guest Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 One thing is for sure - he'll be lapping all this attention up...
Albion Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 I'm on the naughty step then? Yep, one hundred lines of 'I mustn't let my personal feelings interfere with the neutrality of my position' in my office by start of school tomorrow! Roger
NB Willawaw Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 No, you're human and we all have human emotions. Moderating this lot is a pretty thankless task. I'm on the naughty step then?
journeyperson Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Just the same as if you took your family to a Harvester for Sunday lunch, you wouldn't expect to see a stripper. I am expecting to go to a Harvester near Chester on Friday evening; my wife is seduced by the salad bar. There isn't much to seduce me, unless Friday night is when you can expect to see a stripper at Harvester.
Evo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 That is, of course, assuming that he regards the forum as worth sulking about. Of course he does, else he wouldn't of been here for so long with so many posts, trying not to sell us SmartGuages.
mrsmelly Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 I wouldn't want to go back to the sort of society we had in the 70's. I would We had bloody brilliant music we didnt have Aids we could afford to purchase stuff we had a proper armed forces that were funded we had proper Police in Police uniforms that didnt look like para military thugs We still manufactured loads a stuff The term Pc had not been invented In fact the 70s were absolutely fandabidozi.............. 1
Evo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Yeah ..come on..what was so wrong with the seventies..!!!
Lady Muck Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 No internet! I wasn't allowed to go out on my own, or drink. I could give you a huge list. Mum was struggling to bring three of us up in a recession (oh hold on....)
carlt Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Yeah ..come on..what was so wrong with the seventies..!!!
Doorman Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Yeah ..come on..what was so wrong with the seventies..!!! In the seventies I was merely an engineering apprentice who was earning buttons whilst doing the same (if not more) work as my qualified mentor. Mike Where did you get that photo of me and my mentor?
cereal tiller Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 yes smelly,the seventies was ok continuous moorers were extremely rare and the waterways were frequented by enthusiastic people. trouble was ,your friend margaret hilda came along and shut the seventies down. the infrastructure of british industry has never recovered from maggie.
Evo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 In the seventies I was merely an engineering apprentice who was earning buttons whilst doing the same (if not more) work as my qualified mentor What would you be doing in 2011...??? 1) Parked on your arse at home with a Media Studies degree..! 2) Serving someone a Burger through their car window or 3) Loading or unloading lorries with the immigrants down the retail park.
magpie patrick Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 ...my wife is seduced by the salad bar... I'm afraid I got completely the wrong idea there, and thought you might be on your honeymoon
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