Lister/Lucas starter motor

[Gejay]

Hi all,

I'm looking for any one who rebuilds Lucas starter motors, or a supplier of new ones ? Mine is off a Lister SR2 and has the serial number 26166E stamped on it .

 

 

Thanks in advance

 

Gj

[Sir Nibble]

That number cross references to lucas LRS155. If you tout that number around anything under auto electrics in yellow pages you will get some prices. Try wood auto as well. It may well be economical to carry out a repair, what are the fault symptoms?

[Gejay]

That number cross references to lucas LRS155. If you tout that number around anything under auto electrics in yellow pages you will get some prices. Try wood auto as well. It may well be economical to carry out a repair, what are the fault symptoms?

 

Thanks for the quick reply,

 

My boat sank last winter so intended to rebuild/replace to ensure reliability etc .

 

Gj

Edited August 23, 2011 by Gejay

[Sir Nibble]

Thanks for the quick reply,

 

My boat sank last winter so intended to rebuild/replace to ensure reliability etc .

 

Gj

Good plan.Link

[RLWP]

I use SAC in Coventry for reconditioning Starters:

 

SAC website

 

They usually manage a 24hr turnaround

 

Richard

[Gejay]

I use SAC in Coventry for reconditioning Starters:

 

SAC website

 

They usually manage a 24hr turnaround

 

Richard

 

Thanks guy's

Some usefull stuff !

 

Gj

[bizzard]

Thanks guy's

Some usefull stuff !

 

Gj

Be careful with this one,if getting another one or getting yours recond,as most SR's crankshaft's rotate in the opposite direction to most other engines so make sure they put the correct direction pinion and clutch on it,it will just slip and not work at all if the wrong ones fitted.Yours should be a pre-engage starter but might be bendix inertia type and bendix pinion can also be wrong direction too,so make sure.most reconditioners are totally unaware of this.

[Gejay]

Be careful with this one,if getting another one or getting yours recond,as most SR's crankshaft's rotate in the opposite direction to most other engines so make sure they put the correct direction pinion and clutch on it,it will just slip and not work at all if the wrong ones fitted.Yours should be a pre-engage starter but might be bendix inertia type and bendix pinion can also be wrong direction too,so make sure.most reconditioners are totally unaware of this.

Thanks Bizzard,

If looking straight on at the pinion end , the bush end furthest away, there is an arrow showing an anti clock wise direction. I assume this mean its an 'anti clock wise' motor ?

I have just got a price from SAC for £85 + Vat ( thanks Richard) so i'll double check with them etc .

 

Thanks again.

 

Gj

[bizzard]

Thanks Bizzard,

If looking straight on at the pinion end , the bush end furthest away, there is an arrow showing an anti clock wise direction. I assume this mean its an 'anti clock wise' motor ?

I have just got a price from SAC for £85 + Vat ( thanks Richard) so i'll double check with them etc .

 

Thanks again.

 

Gj

Yes but impress on them that its a Lister thats crankshaft rotates the opposite to normal. bizzard

[Sir Nibble]

Be careful with this one,if getting another one or getting yours recond,as most SR's crankshaft's rotate in the opposite direction to most other engines so make sure they put the correct direction pinion and clutch on it,it will just slip and not work at all if the wrong ones fitted.Yours should be a pre-engage starter but might be bendix inertia type and bendix pinion can also be wrong direction too,so make sure.most reconditioners are totally unaware of this.

All in the part number.

most reconditioners are totally unaware of this.

Oh wow! That's a really heavy statement isn't it? Who do you think these people are,orang utans with a halfords socket set? After 35 years as an auto electrician I feel pretty qualified to say that I cannot imagine a reconditioner being unaware of such basic facts as that some starters are anti clock.

Edited August 23, 2011 by Sir Nibble

[mayalld]

Be careful with this one,if getting another one or getting yours recond,as most SR's crankshaft's rotate in the opposite direction to most other engines so make sure they put the correct direction pinion and clutch on it,it will just slip and not work at all if the wrong ones fitted.Yours should be a pre-engage starter but might be bendix inertia type and bendix pinion can also be wrong direction too,so make sure.most reconditioners are totally unaware of this.

 

My experience with Lister starters was with an ST2W, and my recollection is that it was fitted with an LRS555.

 

The LRS555 is an identical body to the LRS155, but opposite rotation and with an 11 tooth pinion whilst the LRS155 has a 10 tooth pinion.

 

As the LRS555 is a rare beast, it is common to find a LRS155 modified to opposite rotation fitted to engines. Buying a vanilla LRS155 may not be the required bit of kit.

[Gejay]

Thanks for all the advice guys.

 

The company in question reburbishes my actual unit so as long as I double check with them about the differences etc I don't envisge a problem.

I guess it could be a problem with new/exchange units etc.

 

Once again, many thanks for your help.

 

Gj

[bizzard]

All in the part number.

 

Oh wow! That's a really heavy statement isn't it? Who do you think these people are,orang utans with a halfords socket set? After 35 years as an auto electrician I feel pretty qualified to say that I cannot imagine a reconditioner being unaware of such basic facts as that some starters are anti clock.

Its very easy to do,however clever the reconditioner is, as the pinion clutch unit looks the same and if the reconditioners is rushed easy to overlook.The inertia type's spiral should be noticed on those though.

Twice in the last 8 years i've been out to boats with SR's that the owner has had the starter recond and won't work afterwards for that reason. bizzard

[Sir Nibble]

Its very easy to do,however clever the reconditioner is, as the pinion clutch unit looks the same and if the reconditioners is rushed easy to overlook.The inertia type's spiral should be noticed on those though.

Twice in the last 8 years i've been out to boats with SR's that the owner has had the starter recond and won't work afterwards for that reason. bizzard

Apart from one or two rare exceptions the armature splines are spiral too so an incorrect drive won't fit, only if the armature is swapped too then you have an opposite rotation starter. I am sure it's possible if you go on an incorrect yoke number but clearly visible on the parts.

[bizzard]

Apart from one or two rare exceptions the armature splines are spiral too so an incorrect drive won't fit, only if the armature is swapped too then you have an opposite rotation starter. I am sure it's possible if you go on an incorrect yoke number but clearly visible on the parts.

Yes true of the inertia type,i think they were mainly fitted to SR3 and ST3. It was the pre-engage type i had two issues with.

bizzard.

[Sir Nibble]

Yes true of the inertia type,i think they were mainly fitted to SR3 and ST3. It was the pre-engage type i had two issues with.

bizzard.

Yes that's right, the pre engaged type. They have spiral splines on the armature and drive. There are some massive great truck starters that have parallel splines but very few and ancient smaller ones.

[Geoff Taylor]

Hi,Give Carwoods in Coventry a try,they service/recon all types of starters and alternators on a quick turn around.

They are also diesel injection pump/injector specialists.I cant remember their address,they are on the industrial estate behind TFI Fridays near to M6 and M69 junctions.