bizzard Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tom llewellyn said: Hi Ok I can see the two dipsticks one on right starboard side of front and one at back of the gear box. Cleaning the plate I can see it's a LM100. A lot of info you can find from reading these old plates lol. It might say engine oil for the gearbox on that plate if its a very early box, but Lister quickly changed the spec to Hypoy gear oil. They did the same with the LH150 hydraulic box. Edited April 4, 2020 by bizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom llewellyn Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 So the oil for the gear box just goes below these two caps on gear box photo? Warmly Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tom llewellyn said: So the oil for the gear box just goes below these two caps on gear box photo? Warmly Tom You fill or top up the oil in the gearbox through where that brass plug is in the centre of the top plate. The reduction box is filled or topped up by unscrewing the tower brass plug sticking up which is also the breather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom llewellyn Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) You look to have a considerable amount of oil below the gearbox / engine, I'd suggest it should be near the top of your to do list to get it cleaned out and find out where it is coming from. Whatever oil you 'put in' may come out just as quickly. Edited April 4, 2020 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bizzard said: It might say engine oil for the gearbox on that plate if its a very early box, but Lister quickly changed the spec to Hypoy gear oil. They did the same with the LH150 hydraulic box. Are you sure about the Hypoy bit. I always understood and used EP80 gear oil rather than Hypoid but I can't see SAE 80 or multi-grade equivalent would do any damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: Are you sure about the Hypoy bit. I always understood and used EP80 gear oil rather than Hypoid but I can't see SAE 80 or multi-grade equivalent would do any damage. I was quoting from an ancient Lister manual, Yes EP 80/90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, bizzard said: I was quoting from an ancient Lister manual, Yes EP 80/90 Meant to say hypoid won't do any damage so its a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said: Meant to say hypoid won't do any damage so its a moot point. The same old manual that states engine oil in those boxes with an update to use Hypoy gear oil. Of course Hypoy, ep 80, exstreme pressure is really intended for units with hellically cut gears where the teeth rub is greater than spur gears. Remember Hi-Press oil ep 160, used in many pre war and just post war rear axles. Smellled of almonds, ep 80 smells of cats pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, bizzard said: The same old manual that states engine oil in those boxes with an update to use Hypoy gear oil. Of course Hypoy, ep 80, exstreme pressure is really intended for units with hellically cut gears where the teeth rub is greater than spur gears. Remember Hi-Press oil ep 160, used in many pre war and just post war rear axles. Smellled of almonds, ep 80 smells of cats pee. I never liked he smell of gear oil, especially very old gear oil. Luckily I no longer have to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 04/04/2020 at 14:51, Alan de Enfield said: You look to have a considerable amount of oil below the gearbox / engine, I'd suggest it should be near the top of your to do list to get it cleaned out and find out where it is coming from. Based on many excursions to retrieve spanners from similar bilges, it will be mostly water with some oil floating on the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, RLWP said: Based on many excursions to retrieve spanners from similar bilges, it will be mostly water with some oil floating on the top. You were lucky then never to have tried to retrieve spanners from what used to lie under Flamingo's Lister.... ... if only it had been mostly water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: You were lucky then never to have tried to retrieve spanners from what used to lie under Flamingo's Lister.... ... if only it had been mostly water! You should try it when its about 3 foot deep, I bent a length of cable tray to form a scoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: You should try it when its about 3 foot deep, I bent a length of cable tray to form a scoop Allowing 3 feet of water to accumulate in the bilges would appear to be rather bad 'management'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Allowing 3 feet of water to accumulate in the bilges would appear to be rather bad 'management'. Depends on the boat ... Or ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, TheBiscuits said: Depends on the boat ... Or ship! Surely any ship that has 3 feet of water in the bilges has a problem with the bilge pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Allowing 3 feet of water to accumulate in the bilges would appear to be rather bad 'management'. Wasn't my boat, I wish I could afford to buy one that big. It was an Ex RAF wartime patrol boat for fishing out downed planes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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