Naish Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Foxglove ? Hi all, I've just joined the forum on behalf of my father who owns Foxglove (70ft FMC, fleet no:357, reg no:1631) which indeed runs a 9hp Bolinder (which he lovingly restored and fitted). I was out with him in Foxglove this weekend gone and can confirm it is running very well indeed - even reversing on first try! My main reason for joining this forum, I must confess, was to possibly find out some much needed information re Foxglove from the oracles on here (Sorry for hijacking the thread) My father has tried researching Foxglove's yard number but to no avail. It was built at W.J.Yarwoods & Sons, Northwich. We understand that records may be held somewhere? Many thanks in advance Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 surely the answer to this is all craft still in existence which were built with Bolinders and or had Bolinders during their working life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hi all, I've just joined the forum on behalf of my father who owns Foxglove (70ft FMC, fleet no:357, reg no:1631) which indeed runs a 9hp Bolinder (which he lovingly restored and fitted). I was out with him in Foxglove this weekend gone and can confirm it is running very well indeed - even reversing on first try! My main reason for joining this forum, I must confess, was to possibly find out some much needed information re Foxglove from the oracles on here (Sorry for hijacking the thread) My father has tried researching Foxglove's yard number but to no avail. It was built at W.J.Yarwoods & Sons, Northwich. We understand that records may be held somewhere? Many thanks in advance Jason Jason, I have some records from the late Clive Guthrie who was the Yarwoods guru, Foxglove and all the latter FMC motors are missing. I am sure if the info is about it will appear on here in due course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naish Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hi - many thanks for that. Pretty much what we had gathered. My father has a 'guess' number from a process of elimination, but he doesn't know for sure.... The engraving on Foxglove's plaque will have to wait for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggers Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Just out of curiosity, what other boats, apart from Foxglove and Minnow have 9hp in them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Hi all, I've just joined the forum on behalf of my father who owns Foxglove (70ft FMC, fleet no:357, reg no:1631) which indeed runs a 9hp Bolinder (which he lovingly restored and fitted). I was out with him in Foxglove this weekend gone and can confirm it is running very well indeed - even reversing on first try! My main reason for joining this forum, I must confess, was to possibly find out some much needed information re Foxglove from the oracles on here (Sorry for hijacking the thread) My father has tried researching Foxglove's yard number but to no avail. It was built at W.J.Yarwoods & Sons, Northwich. We understand that records may be held somewhere? Many thanks in advance Jason HI, I am reliably informed that the yard number for Foxglove is almost certainly 803. Also if the Bolinder in that boat is the one which was an exhibit at Shardlow in the 1980's it is a 15hp model not a 9hp. This was supplied to "Plus Pleasures Marine" museum by Tony Miles of Keay's dock along with a single cylinder Petter. Having just spoke to Tony (who lives in Thailand) he confirms this. Edited October 23, 2012 by Laurence Hogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Foxglove passed me at Yarwoods Basin the other week on the Weaver, and definitely a 15hp model from the sound of it. Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthecut Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Foxglove passed me at Yarwoods Basin the other week on the Weaver, and definitely a 15hp model from the sound of it. Liam 15 in Foxglove yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naish Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 <- my father rolling his eyes at my mistake, yes it is indeed a 15hp 6ltr boly HI, I am reliably informed that the yard number for Foxglove is almost certainly 803.... His research and process of elimination had led him to number 802 - so 803 is now also a possibility? I'll let him know - many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 <- my father rolling his eyes at my mistake, yes it is indeed a 15hp 6ltr boly His research and process of elimination had led him to number 802 - so 803 is now also a possibility? I'll let him know - many thanks! 803 is based on the delivery sequence so almost certainly correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Still with a Bolinder Off the top of my head ........... Worcester - Tunnel Tug Jaguar - Josher Minnow - Josher Dane - T. Clayton George - GUCCCo Kangaroo - Josher Peacock - Josher Colonel - Josher Dragon - Josher Being Pedantic shouldn't that be still with a Bolinder and/ or once again refitted with a Bolinder after having spent time with other engines?? Edited October 23, 2012 by antarmike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggers Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 So Minnow is the only narrowboat running a 9hp Bolinder now Antartics has been taken out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 So Minnow is the only narrowboat running a 9hp Bolinder now Antartics has been taken out Didn't Clent have a 9 horse when Ali owned it or is my memory failing. George ex nb Alton retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 GEORGE was originally fitted with a Kromhout according to one source. Last time I heard it running (2010 I think) it sounded very regular, unlike most Bolinders, but it is listed elsewhere as being Bolinder powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwheel Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Didn't Clent have a 9 horse when Ali owned it or is my memory failing. George ex nb Alton retired Yes I think it is still has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 This is the Bolinder that was took to Shardlow for the exhibition there in the 1980's. Tony Mles is seen examining it in the front of "Judith Anne" at Keays dock prior to setting off for Shardlow. this is the engine now in "Foxglove". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimneyChain Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 That's the biggest piston I've seen and I've stripped down loads of truck engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Many moons ago Peter Froud sold an engine 'kit', I think it may have been to Dennis Cooper, on the strict understanding that it was 'for display purposes only', AFAIR it was for the pub at Gas Street. I imagine it's been refurbished and put into a boat by now, anyone know its fate? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Many moons ago Peter Froud sold an engine 'kit', I think it may have been to Dennis Cooper, on the strict understanding that it was 'for display purposes only', AFAIR it was for the pub at Gas Street. I imagine it's been refurbished and put into a boat by now, anyone know its fate? Tim I think that was the one which went into the "Longboat" pub on Cambrian Wharf, it was upstairs and was always losing parts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 This is the Bolinder that was took to Shardlow for the exhibition there in the 1980's. Tony Mles is seen examining it in the front of "Judith Anne" at Keays dock prior to setting off for Shardlow. this is the engine now in "Foxglove". Going OT for a second, Laurence, Judith Anne seems to have quite a high floor creating quite a deep bilge. Is this because she is quite buoyant and needed extra ballast do you know? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykaskin Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 GEORGE was originally fitted with a Kromhout according to one source. Last time I heard it running (2010 I think) it sounded very regular, unlike most Bolinders, but it is listed elsewhere as being Bolinder powered. Everything I've seen says Bolinder - but you're right it sounds far more like an engine with variable injection. I just assumed it was slightly broke Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckbyLocks Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everything I've seen says Bolinder - but you're right it sounds far more like an engine with variable injection. I just assumed it was slightly broke Mike 20 Horse with Gear Box. Many moons ago Peter Froud sold an engine 'kit', I think it may have been to Dennis Cooper, on the strict understanding that it was 'for display purposes only', AFAIR it was for the pub at Gas Street. I imagine it's been refurbished and put into a boat by now, anyone know its fate? Tim It spent many years in the lower entrance to the pub under the new name (Flapper & Firkin?). I did meet the guy who managed to extract it from the brewery and he was indeed going to put it in a boat, but I have no idea which boat. Must have been more than ten years ago as I ceased working on the Thirteen in 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
by'eck Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everything I've seen says Bolinder - but you're right it sounds far more like an engine with variable injection. I just assumed it was slightly broke Mike M series Bolinder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giveitsomeoil Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 20 Horse with Gear Box. It spent many years in the lower entrance to the pub under the new name (Flapper & Firkin?). I did meet the guy who managed to extract it from the brewery and he was indeed going to put it in a boat, but I have no idea which boat. Must have been more than ten years ago as I ceased working on the Thirteen in 2000. Indeed it was sold over ten years ago and rebuilt in a shed as many useful parts had gone missing ( boatmen visiting the pub with a pocket full of spanners I hear!) My understanding is that it is now the one running in Dory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAlan W Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I am led to understand that when the Seffle was removed from Lily it was replaced with a 20 HP gearbox shod model I have no idea if it is still fitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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