max's son Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Pity you removed the Picture Pete I was interested looks similar to a table Dad had which my sister's got in Cornwall. I thought it was by Ron Hopefully those who are interested will keep you here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moore Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul H Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Well it’s been a while and I thought it was about time we had another “who is the painter?” I’ve got my own ideas but I don’t want to “lead the witness!” Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Paul H said: Well it’s been a while and I thought it was about time we had another “who is the painter?” I’ve got my own ideas but I don’t want to “lead the witness!” Paul Definitely Ron Hough. - Circa 1980 (confirmation of date awaited from Dave Moore or Phil Speight) Edited March 20, 2019 by David Schweizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 It is certainly remarkably like a can I have here that everybody seemed to agree was definitely Ron's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moore Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 It’s Ron, for certain. I’m wary of dating it precisely but it belongs to his earlier days when the painting was rather more detailed and with a certain “oomph” to it. I’ve examples here that are very similar in style, a couple of tea trays and a 3 gallon can with the paint so faded and worn that it’s barely discernible....but Ron, nevertheless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, dave moore said: It’s Ron, for certain. I’m wary of dating it precisely but it belongs to his earlier days when the painting was rather more detailed and with a certain “oomph” to it. I’ve examples here that are very similar in style, a couple of tea trays and a 3 gallon can with the paint so faded and worn that it’s barely discernible....but Ron, nevertheless! Yes it can be difficult, but the roses are of a very similar form to some on a rotting panel I retieved from the front Cabin door on Helvetia, and they would have been painted in the early 1980's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max's son Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Paul H said: Well it’s been a while and I thought it was about time we had another “who is the painter?” I’ve got my own ideas but I don’t want to “lead the witness!” Paul similar to this one which I was told was Ron's work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, max's son said: similar to this one which I was told was Ron's work I would confidently state that is not Ron's work, but looks like Braunston style. Dave Moore may have an idea of who's work it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Priest Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Colin Clarke for my money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 (This one definitely Ron’s 1983. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max's son Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 The can dates from the 50's was rescued from floating in the canal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moore Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Having looked at previous posts, I’m minded to go with Steve on the supposed Ron Hough can. I had a cabin stool here for many years, ascribed to Colin Clarke, brother of the better known Dennis, with very similar flowers, though those in the photo are rather freer and flamboyant than those on the stool. If the Dav and Pen can is Ron’s, then it’s like no other examples of his work that I’ve ever seen.....all of us painters modify work over time, hopefully for the better.....I’ve photos of very early Ron that don’t reflect his attained skill, I wouldn’t dream of posting them here any more than I would of early work by now respected painters. I’ve seen lots of work, usually Braunston style, that can’t be tagged to a known painter....perhaps there was a production line to meet the souvenir market in the early days, several painters working stage by stage on one item...or are there as yet un-named hands still to be discovered? Your call.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just thought I would put this up to remind people what proper boat painting looks like. James just after launching at Riley Green in the early 1950s - a still taken from a short 8mm film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, dave moore said: Having looked at previous posts, I’m minded to go with Steve on the supposed Ron Hough can. I had a cabin stool here for many years, ascribed to Colin Clarke, brother of the better known Dennis, with very similar flowers, though those in the photo are rather freer and flamboyant than those on the stool. If the Dav and Pen can is Ron’s, then it’s like no other examples of his work that I’ve ever seen.....all of us painters modify work over time, hopefully for the better.....I’ve photos of very early Ron that don’t reflect his attained skill, I wouldn’t dream of posting them here any more than I would of early work by now respected painters. I’ve seen lots of work, usually Braunston style, that can’t be tagged to a known painter....perhaps there was a production line to meet the souvenir market in the early days, several painters working stage by stage on one item...or are there as yet un-named hands still to be discovered? Your call.... I agree, whilst the painting could be described as "Braunston Style" and shares some of the characteristics of Ron's early work, the daisies and the leaves are completely different to any I have ever seen painted by Ron. Dav and Pen indicate a date of 1983 for the painting, but Ron's work had reached his recognised style many years before that. I have an old Stoke Bruerne Musem hand book published in 1972 for which Ron painted the cover, and the decoration is far more acomplished than that on the can. I will try and take a photo of the booklet and post it for comparison. Edited March 21, 2019 by David Schweizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Pluto said: Just thought I would put this up to remind people what proper boat painting looks like. James just after launching at Riley Green in the early 1950s - a still taken from a short 8mm film. That's some bright work right there More scrolls and less castles I say ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 14 hours ago, dave moore said: Having looked at previous posts, I’m minded to go with Steve on the supposed Ron Hough can. I had a cabin stool here for many years, ascribed to Colin Clarke, brother of the better known Dennis, with very similar flowers, though those in the photo are rather freer and flamboyant than those on the stool. If the Dav and Pen can is Ron’s, then it’s like no other examples of his work that I’ve ever seen.....all of us painters modify work over time, hopefully for the better.....I’ve photos of very early Ron that don’t reflect his attained skill, I wouldn’t dream of posting them here any more than I would of early work by now respected painters. I’ve seen lots of work, usually Braunston style, that can’t be tagged to a known painter....perhaps there was a production line to meet the souvenir market in the early days, several painters working stage by stage on one item...or are there as yet un-named hands still to be discovered? Your call.... Thank you Dave and others for confirming the painter of my can as Ron Hough. It’s amazing how his style changed over the years and I much prefer his output of the 60s and 70s to which I think my can belongs. You would expect his painting to have loosened up as the years went on but instead it seemed to get tighter and more sparse. Was he reacting to the change to a predominantly souvenir rather than working boat market or were there health issues? But he was still a master although I’ve never liked his castles. Sacrilege I know! Max’s son’s can looks remarkably like the one below (pic stolen from the Nurser family website) which shows a can on Gort which is attributed to Dennis Clarke. But I suppose it depends who’s doing the attributing! Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Paul H said: Max’s son’s can looks remarkably like the one below (pic stolen from the Nurser family website) which shows a can on Gort which is attributed to Dennis Clarke. But I suppose it depends who’s doing the attributing! Paul This from Flamingo has been confirmed by several people as being Dennis Clarke's work....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Schweizer Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Dav and Pen said: (This one definitely Ron’s 1983. As chance would have it a copy of the Wateways Museum booklet, published in 1972, is currently on ebay, so I have pinched the photo. I think it demonstartes the unlikelyhood of the can being by Ron Hough. Edited March 22, 2019 by David Schweizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 I knew Ron for many years and lived in Braunston being a drinking friend. it definitely came from Ron when we got Thor and also a dipper. My daughters commissioned them as a gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Priest Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 I’ll own up - Dav & Pen’s can is my work. Max’s son’s can is, I believe, the same one as Innes Catto bought for the Gort. I think he was told that it was Dennis Clarke’s work, he certainly believed that it was, hence it being attributed to Dennis on the Nurser website. I think, however, that it is not Dennis’s but is by his brother Colin, and yes Alan, most of the older painting on Flamingo is Dennis’s. Here is another example of Dennis’s painting that came from Water Ouzel when we reclad the cabin some years ago Whilst talking of some of the lesser known Braunston painters, let’s see what you make of this :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Steve. I know you did the back cabin but didn’t know you did the can was sure it came from Ron. Apologies to all. The one we had when we owned Crane was from Ron as I dealt with it and it’s in the loft at home. The can we had on Tadworth all those years ago was painted by my old friend Graham Palmer of wrg fame who was quite a talented painter. here in France they don’t seem to go in for ancient folk art on their barges they prefer latest radar, AIS, powered hatch covers and cranes big enough to load the car. Regards dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav and Pen Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 These were the doors on the Tadworth when we brought her, think they are the transfers bwb used no doubt someone will know.Later Simon Wain painted over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dav and Pen said: These were the doors on the Tadworth when we brought her, think they are the transfers bwb used no doubt someone will know.Later Simon Wain painted over them. Were they painted white? Frank Jones Waterways transfer: Edited March 22, 2019 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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