sanford Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 We have a 42 ft narrow boat, me and the wife would like a bit more room so looked at bigger boats then the wife said why dont we get a bit (8 to 10 ft ) put in this one, seems like a good idea to me, is it possible and a good idea? Thanks for any help. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greywolf Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 If you read the blog for narrow boat caxton they have recently had it done .It looks good but i do not think it is a cheap option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolimo Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 We have a 42 ft narrow boat, me and the wife would like a bit more room so looked at bigger boats then the wife said why dont we get a bit (8 to 10 ft ) put in this one, seems like a good idea to me, is it possible and a good idea? Thanks for any help. regards Hi, Dave Thomas in braunston extended my boat a few years ago. The join was strong enough to allow the boat to be craned back into the water. I thought it was a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcatchpole Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 We have a 42 ft narrow boat, me and the wife would like a bit more room so looked at bigger boats then the wife said why dont we get a bit (8 to 10 ft ) put in this one, seems like a good idea to me, is it possible and a good idea? Thanks for any help. regards Streethay Wharf seem to be popular at this sort of thing, and know what they're doing, IMHO. If we had a boat with any value, sentimental or otherwise, we'd probably consider it. PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 We have a 42 ft narrow boat, me and the wife would like a bit more room so looked at bigger boats then the wife said why dont we get a bit (8 to 10 ft ) put in this one, seems like a good idea to me, is it possible and a good idea? Thanks for any help. regards Is the engine man enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper ghost Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 My boat's 43 feet and i'm considering lengthening mine too. I'm in the process of changing the engine as the old one was hardly up to pushing the baot as it was. You need to consider the internal layout and whether adding the extra bit would fit in. Would you extend each room, eg, bathroom, kitchen and lounge etc, or just add a bedroom. Are you that attched to your boat as selling and buying a longer boat makes more sense, unless like me you like to give yourself lots of hard work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sueb Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 We thought about lengthening our 48' but worked out we could get a 58' for the same price and we would have had an old boat just with a small new bit. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbybass Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Any rough idea on prices for this...? I have a 60 footer...and was pondering adding an extra 7 foot to make a nice sitting area on the bow... Thanks. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 As has been indicated, a major consideration in costing such an exercise is whether your original engine has enough reserves of power to still be fit for purpose in the stretched boat. Engine swaps usually come expensive, so might be the determining factor in whether to consider it. If you are skin tank cooled, you need to check you have reserves there too, as even if the engine can cope, it will need to be run harder, and you need to be sure the cooling areas will still be large enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 A few years ago somebody I know who moors on the same mooring as me, had their boat stretched from 40ft to 58ft. A fair bit extra weight and length but still has the original engine, gearbox and prop pushing it along... somewhat more slowly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer2911 Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) We have a 42 ft narrow boat, me and the wife would like a bit more room so looked at bigger boats then the wife said why dont we get a bit (8 to 10 ft ) put in this one, seems like a good idea to me, is it possible and a good idea? Thanks for any help. regards Streethay added 10ft to my 52 footer some years ago. You will need to remove the internal panelling for 1 mt either side of where they will cut, and of course make good internally after lengthening. The welded joins making up the stretch were virtually undetectable, but of course you need to repaint. Fortunately my engine was more than man enough at 40 hp to drive the bigger boat, although I have since had the cooling massively improved by Oxley Marine. The Streethay price was good, but like all businesses, they will charge for doing anything that was not expressly included in the price - GET IT ALL IN WRITING. Edited April 12, 2010 by homer2911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardH Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 We too had a 42 footer and did all the sums around stretching - in the end it turned out to be more cost effective to sell and replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Any rough idea on prices for this...?I have a 60 footer...and was pondering adding an extra 7 foot to make a nice sitting area on the bow... Thanks. Bob Try this site http://narrowboatcaxton.blogspot.com/2010/...ton-is-cut.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_2A_ Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) I seem to remember being told it was about £1000 per foot - even the boatyard I was talking to reckoned it was better to trade up than extend. Edited April 13, 2010 by dave_2A_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I seem to remember being told it was about £1000 per foot - even the boatyard I was talking to reckoned it was better to trade up than extend. There goes the idea of putting 20ft back into Ariel then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I seem to remember being told it was about £1000 per foot - even the boatyard I was talking to reckoned it was better to trade up than extend. Surely the "per foot" cost will vary enormously depending on the length of the actual "stretch" ? No way is adding 30 feet going to cost 30 times what it would cost to add 1 foot. OK, I'm exaggerating the point, but the actual act of pulling it out, cutting through it, pulling it apart, and joining it back together must be a major part of the steelwork cost, with the actual cost of the materials being put in the middle being relatively low. I can't imagine this is something where it is realistic to give a guide price measured as "per foot" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 There goes the idea of putting 20ft back into Ariel then Cheaper to do an open hold than a narrowboat with a roof. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Well I'd halved the cost in my head, but the answer is still no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper ghost Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Well I'd halved the cost in my head, but the answer is still no Have to do it yourself, the steel wouldn't cost much, rent for yard space doesn't cost much either. Get welding... on an old working boat you won't even have to worry too much about getting it too straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Wife wanted a foot, i told her 10 inch will have to do for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Doran Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Wife wanted a foot, i told her 10 inch will have to do for now... Right you! To the norty step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) Have to do it yourself, the steel wouldn't cost much, rent for yard space doesn't cost much either. Get welding... on an old working boat you won't even have to worry too much about getting it too straight You joking of course. You can weld any monstrosity into a narrowboat that you want, and you may get some comments on the welds or the flatness of the panels. But woe betide you if you don't use the correct size and shape of rivet heads and the proper imperial sized steel, together with a carefully researched coat of red lead if you do any work at all on an ex working boat. There are an army of experts, all armed with a thousand photographs, drawings, anecdotes from old boaters, builders and painters to tell you just how wrong the work you have do is. Richard Edited April 14, 2010 by RLWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper ghost Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 You joking of course. You can weld any monstrosity into a narrowboat that you want, and you may get some comments on the welds or the flatness of the panels. But woe betide you if you don't use the correct size and shape of rivet heads and the proper imperial sized steel, together with a carefully researched coat of red lead if you do any work at all on an ex working boat. There are an army of experts, all armed with a thousand photographs, drawings, anecdotes from old boaters, builders and painters to tell you just how wrong the work you have do is. Richard Maybe you could treat it like doing an extension on a listed building, english heritage like the extension to stand out as being new, therefore do the boat extension so it's obviously new too, no rivets, wrong size strakes, even get the panels straight... only joking of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 You shouldn't joke about these things. I can hear archives being opened and poison pens sharpened even as we speak Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 There goes the idea of putting 20ft back into Ariel then For steel work alone I was quoted a much lower figure by Roger Farington at Braunston, lengthening a hold like Caxton would not be to bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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