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MartinClark

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mayalld Veteran II

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Sorry mayalld, but when I asked the people at the little red phone if my insurance was valid if I drove without roadtax they said No.

 

Im now with the old people (saga)

 

Very wise.

 

Never do business with people who employ staff who haven't a clue about the product

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Phoenix_V Rising Star

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Very wise.

 

Never do business with people who employ staff who haven't a clue about the product

 

I f the car that hits you is insured then the insurer has to pay your claim (if at fault), they may then try to get their money back from their policyholder if he has been in breach of any policy conditions

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bottle Veteran II

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When my car was SORNed it was still insured, it had to be insured and MOT'd to get the road fund licence.

 

All the years I have had insurance, I have never been asked to prove the Road Fund licence was paid.

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carlt Veteran II

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My insurance covers me (and my NCB) if I am hit by an uninsured vehicle.

 

My boat insurance covers me for Third Party claims whether it is licensed. or not (they don't even ask me which waterway I'm on so the BW licence is irrelevant).

 

I don't understand the relevance of all these questions, unless you're trying to sell me a better policy, in which case I must tell you, I'm satisfied with the one I've got.

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mayalld Veteran II

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I thought that is what a forum was all about , putting over your opinion and responding to others :lol:

 

It is.

 

Although, some people seem to want a more fluffy bunny forum.

 

Carl and I are often to be found on the opposite side of the bear pit, and I think we both enjoy it.

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mayalld Veteran II

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I will contribute 10 quid to any boaters hardship fund on condition that I do NOT get a calendar.

 

Last year coming up the Macc, my good lady uttered the imortal words "Oh my god, don't look right"

 

So naturally, I swung my head to the right at about twice the speed of light.

 

She was 95 if she was a day, not a stitch on, and with her back to me as she bent down to load the washing machine.....

 

I think I need another beer.

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Jason Wilson and Family Proficient

Jason Wilson and Family

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What I am trying to put over is that no licence means that it should not be there and should be reported.

Why not, all a license is is a bit of paper that says the car was in good condition and might have had insurance on a certain day. If the car develops a problem that causes it to hit your car the licence doesn't do you a bit of good.

 

Over here my car has to have an annual inspection to check basic safety requirements. My car has some major problems that don't count against the sticker but make it more unsafe than say my tail-lights not working. If I hit someone with my car, what good did the inspection sticker do anyone?

 

That inspection sticker, like the license there, it seems, only serves to please a busy-body that the owner is meeting said busy-bodies standards. IT doesn't guarantee safety, it doesn't make and difference to the car, the owner, or the manner of operation. It's just a bit of paper and a promise.

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denboy Experienced

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Your insurance will not payout if your vehicle is untaxed as it should not be on the road!

there is a little known almost secret claims procedure to claim for accident repairs by uninsured drivers all insurance companies pay into it although i believe it is a rigmarole to get ,, watched an item on watchdog about it the insurance companies apparently will not tell you that it is possible to make a claim as its money out of there purse

 

 

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/miud/unins...greement?page=5

 

 

edit for link :lol:

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tinca steve Contributor

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Reporting someone for breaking the rules/law is not spying. If you do not wish to be reported then its simple, licence your vehicle like the rest of us. It has been suggested that an unlicensed boat may also have no insurance or safety certificate.

No problems so far you may think but that unlicensed vehicle takes up room that a licenced vehicle may like to use or a parking area that you would love to use but cant because an unlicensed vehicle is there. Also if somebody is willing to fore go getting a licence maybe they are also not to worried about the safety aspect within their vehicle, i.e. gas or fuel leaks etc. We all know that maintenance costs are rising so maybe that's out the window too. With mooring at a premium and the congested state of the canals getting worse as new boats are being built year on year how long are you willing to turn a blind eye to unlicensed boats. How many unlicensed boats are deemed OK, 1% - 5%- 25% of all boats or until it affects you personally. Sorry unlicensed vehicles should be removed until a licence can be produced.

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not as hard to claim from this fund as i was led to believe.

i was paid over seven hundred £ from it i had reported the incident to the police and they discovered the car that hit mine was scrapped the day afterwards , they paid me out after the police confirmed what had happened.

the paid it promptly as well if my memory is right.

paid repair in full and a bit of extra cash for some other loss , probably loss of earning.

enough to make me jump up and click me heels.

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tinca steve Contributor

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I'm not here to defend BW - only to pass this on to you, but I find this response puzzling. Are you happy to pay your licence and then see other people trying to get away with paying nothing? It's theft and they are stealing from BW and from other boaters.

 

I seem to recall hearing lots of people over the last few years complaining that BW was doing nothing about all the unlicensed boats and continuous moorers. Now people are complaining that BW is doing something about it!

 

If someone sees a boat that seems to be unlicensed they can find out if it is or not. If it bothers them that the boat is unlicensed they can get something done about it. If it doesn't bother them, then they don't have to.

 

 

MartinClark is much better than I am at putting it all down in print. But what I have read here reminds me of something :- If you don't vote, don't talk politics . :lol:

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saltysplash Experienced

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Going back to the original question? Should you report a fellow boater on hard times? Should you report an unlicensed boat?.

 

Well answer me this , if you was to see a motor vehicle with no road tax displayed and knowing that an untaxed car carries NO insurance because within the insurance documents issued it states roughly that your vehicle must be road worthy for the insurance to be valid (drivers licence,road tax, and M.O.T = road worthy), and a bit later you see said car cause damage to another and drive away WOULD YOU REPORT IT.

 

What I am trying to put over is if a vehicle (of any type) is suppose to have a licence to use the road(of any type) and insurance and worthiness certificate then all is OK, if it does not have these items then get it off the road. All roads are congested, tarmac and water, parking is also getting congested and more boats are being built every year so where do you put them ?? if everywhere you look there are vehicles that simply should not be there. Get them off the water and off the road to make it a safer place to be ! ! !

 

 

Its not quite cut and dried.

 

 

You can tax a car 2weeks prior to your MOT or Insurance running out,,,,,,so all you see is a little disc in the window.........that does not mean the car is insured or mot'd...it just means at on the day the person bought the disc, the insurance and mot were valid.....unless of course they were stolen certs, or forged.....

 

 

The majority of 'Fail to stop collisions these days are for 2 reasons......1st....too much to drink......2nd.......no documents...either car or driver.

 

Yet the Gov or police authority dont put a priority on vehicle crime......so what happens is, you get Road Cameras to do the so called job of traffic officers,.....the downside to this is.......they, (the Cameras) only actually catch those of us who register and insure our vehicles.......those people who dont follow the rules drive through speed cameras willy nilly.

 

If you had traffic officers who were allowed a modicum of discretion then im convinced mv offences would reduce....mind you...having said that, Swmbo's brother is Traff Pol an I wouldnt trust him as far as I could throw him

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tinca steve Contributor

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Salty , forget the car insurance bits what I was trying to convey was at what point do you change your mind and report someone against the unwillingness to GRASS on another boater. When is enough, when do you stand up and say your piece or do you just say nothing. If you do decide to do nothing then please don't ever moan about the lack of mooring or cruising space or the lack of BW doing things. Fees allow things to be done , I'm not saying the right things (as in square bollards) but something can be done with the funds. As a licence holder you have the right to complain.

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