Moorings question - please help update my knowledge...

[Stroudwater1]

10 minutes ago, LadyG said:

More likely it will create more confusion, the posters on here, tend to make their own interpretation,  see above

I rarely communicate with CRT, I pay their premium licence, and comply with their rules, it's their interpretation which i disagre with, but they clearly state their decision is final, so no point in communicating. I am beginning to suspect they are making it up, lol.

Wow, how do I get a Premium Licence, LadyG, or is that your interpretation of a CC licence. Does it give you a premium cruising advantage? 

[MtB]

On 31/07/2026 at 16:48, LadyG said:

This last twelve months I moved 26 times, hmmmm,

 

"Hmmmm" indeed. Not much really is it? One move a fortnight? The intention behind the law was to accommodate those moving 365 times every twelve months. Less a couple of stops of two weeks per year perhaps.

 

The term the law uses is "bona fide for navigation throughout the period for which the consent is valid".

 

Not "bona fide for navigation for one day in 14 of the period for which consent is valid".

 

So I agree with your assertion CRT are making up rules. They certainly made up the one that says you only need to cruise once in every 14 days. 

 

 

 

 

 

[LadyG]

47 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

"Hmmmm" indeed. Not much really is it? One move a fortnight? The intention behind the law was to accommodate those moving 365 times every twelve months. Less a couple of stops of two weeks per year perhaps.

 

The term the law uses is "bona fide for navigation throughout the period for which the consent is valid".

 

Not "bona fide for navigation for one day in 14 of the period for which consent is valid".

 

So I agree with your assertion CRT are making up rules. They certainly made up the one that says you only need to cruise once in every 14 days. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was  on a marina mooring for 10 weeks (thats normally about seven re-locations in summer), various other issues which meant i had to moor in one place for twelve days, else I would probably have made an extra dozen relocations, but ive worked round the 14 day rules.rather than ask for overstays. I did have one official overstay during the heatwave, I moored under trees for three weeks: no point in ending up in hospital with heatstroke.

I'm a leisure boater, not a marathon runner! 

 

Edited August 2 by LadyG

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

3 hours ago, LadyG said:

 but ive worked round the 14 day rules.rather than ask for overstays.

 You obviously have worked it to suit you and not the CCing regs as if you worked around it with informing CaRT and getting a tick in the box off them, they wouldn’t of put you on a restrictive licence. Can’t you see that?

 You’ve also said you don’t communicate with CaRT, big mistake. It’s their train set, their rules. Not yours.

 You obviously need to change your attitude towards CaRT or get off their waters, as they’re far bigger than you and it will only cost you more hassle and grief in the long run, can’t you see that?

Edited August 2 by BoatingLifeUpNorth2

[LadyG]

5 hours ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

 You obviously have worked it to suit you and not the CCing regs as if you worked around it with informing CaRT and getting a tick in the box off them, they wouldn’t of put you on a restrictive licence. Can’t you see that?

 You’ve also said you don’t communicate with CaRT, big mistake. It’s their train set, their rules. Not yours.

 You obviously need to change your attitude towards CaRT or get off their waters, as they’re far bigger than you and it will only cost you more hassle and grief.

Nope, you are waffling again, fortunately you are not in any position to make judgmemt.

At no time did I overstay on their moorings, I complied with their rules, why would I not do so?

So I didn't have to notify them of anything, as far as I could determine.

I took the advice of a very experienced person who knows far more than the person who issued the enforcement notice, and if they had asked me before hitting the button, they would have found out why someone with a record of cc for six years had suddenly moored up on a marina mooring, which is not an offence btw.

I don't need to communicate,  if in doubt I ask.

I think they are wrong, it would never go to court, and im quite sure they will use it as a case study at their regional meeting.

Actually it quite suited me to have the six month licence at that time, lol   .

Edited August 2 by LadyG

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

55 minutes ago, LadyG said:

Nope, you are waffling again, fortunately tou are not in any position to make judgmemt.

At no time did I overstay on their moorings, I complied with their rules, why would I not do so?

So I didn't have to notify them of anything, as far as I could determine.

I took the advice of a very experienced person who knows far more than the person who issued the enforcement notice, and if they had asked me before hitting the button, they would have found out why someone with a record of cc for six years had suddenly moored up on a marina mooring, which is not an offence btw.

I don't need to communicate,  if in doubt I ask. I think they are wrong, it would never go to court, and im quite sure they will have had a case study at their regional meeting.

Actually it quite suited me to have the six month licence at that time, lol   .

If anyone is waffling it’s you. I’m going on what you’ve wrote on here like everyone else.

You said you’re on a restrictive Licence for overstaying, your very experienced person obviously got it wrong, as you’re now paying the price with your licence after listening to him and overstaying. Try speaking to CaRT Licensing instead of all these not so experienced people you seem to listen too.
 But as you don’t communicate with CaRT, well, you’re a fool.

 

 

Edited August 2 by BoatingLifeUpNorth2

[Tentface]

On 31/07/2026 at 09:55, Bod said:

"Rents a room in a houseshare nearby" does this mean you would be looking to boat in one small area, close to your partner?

Before going any further you need to go to the C&RT website to read and fully understand the requirements for "Continuous Cruising" or as it is properly named "Boats without a Home mooring"  This is what you will be signing up to, if you do not have a recognised mooring arrangement either with C&RT or a mooring provider.

 

I visited a marina yesterday, viewed some boats, and had a long conversation with the owner. He confirmed by suspicion that "residential" means using the boat as an address, for things like registering with a doctor, claiming UC etc. Also, never (or very rarely) moving the boat offsite. He explained that their marina has no residential moorings, though around 30 users live on their boats. Provided that users don't cite the marina as their address for anything other than getting parcels, and that they have a canalworthy, fully registered and insured boat with a working engine, they aren't residents. Even though they live on the boats moored there.

[Arthur Marshall]

2 hours ago, MtB said:

 

"Hmmmm" indeed. Not much really is it? One move a fortnight? The intention behind the law was to accommodate those moving 365 times every twelve months. Less a couple of stops of two weeks per year perhaps.

 

The term the law uses is "bona fide for navigation throughout the period for which the consent is valid".

 

Not "bona fide for navigation for one day in 14 of the period for which consent is valid".

 

So I agree with your assertion CRT are making up rules. They certainly made up the one that says you only need to cruise once in every 14 days. 

 

 

 

 

 

But she  says she was in a marina for three months. So that's 26 moves in 9 months, and there are dumpers on here who argue passionately that 26 in a year is all you need anyway. Winter stoppages stop everyone from moving occasionally too.I have friends who have  had overstay notices when constantly moving, simply because CRT get it wrong. Their spotters certainly don't cover the whole network every fortnight as they used to tell us - I hardly get spotted anywhere once off my mooring.

People are a bit inconsistent on here about whether or not people are folowing the rules, rather depending on their personal attitude to the poster. I do find it a trifle hypocritical.

[Tony Brooks]

5 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

But she  says she was in a marina for three months. So that's 26 moves in 9 months, and there are dumpers on here who argue passionately that 26 in a year is all you need anyway. Winter stoppages stop everyone from moving occasionally too.I have friends who have  had overstay notices when constantly moving, simply because CRT get it wrong. Their spotters certainly don't cover the whole network every fortnight as they used to tell us - I hardly get spotted anywhere once off my mooring.

People are a bit inconsistent on here about whether or not people are folowing the rules, rather depending on their personal attitude to the poster. I do find it a trifle hypocritical.

 

I would add that when I asked and got my "spotted list" at least one entry was totally incorrect and one very ambiguous. We moored in Calcutt marina and one "spot"  had us in Ventnor farm, and another in the Napton Reservoir feeder, which I suppose Calcutt locks marina might be.

[LadyG]

4 hours ago, Arthur Marshall said:

......, rather depending on their personal attitude to the poster. I do find it a trifle hypocritical.

Yep, I dont usually mention it. But there a strong thread of mysogeny on this forum.

I think im the longest surviving "openly female" female.

I probably have the longest 'ignore list'

 

Edited August 2 by LadyG

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

3 hours ago, LadyG said:

Yep, I dont usually mention it. But there a strong thread of mysogeny on this forum.

I think im the longest surviving "openly female" female.

I probably have the longest 'ignore list'

 

I don’t think it’s anything to do with misogyny, but if you want to play that card and victim that’s up to you.

 If anyone puts on comments like you do, be that member male or female, old or young, newbie or seasoned boater, they would get the same response. 
 You say CaRT has put you on restricted license for not complying with the CC regs and overstaying, yet you say you don’t contact CaRT. This is totally bonkers, you need to contact CaRT to explain your situation and predicament. This goes for any Newbie who’s thinking about going CCing. If you think you need to stay longer than the designated time contact CaRT licensing with your reason, as long as it’s genuine and legitimate they will help. It’s not rocket science.

 But as you say you don’t communicate with CaRT, so what do you expect from them?

Edited August 2 by BoatingLifeUpNorth2

[Debby]

3 hours ago, LadyG said:

 

I think im the longest surviving "openly female" female.

I probably have the longest 'ignore list'

 

 

I think Haggis beats you by quite a few years as longest surviving female. So does Jeannette Smith Harrison. I've been a member here longer than you, too. I'm not sure how someone identifies as an "openly female" female though.

Edited August 2 by Debby
Mistype.

[LadyG]

45 minutes ago, Debby said:

 

I think Haggis beats you by quite a few years as longest surviving female. So does Jeannette Smith Harrison. I've been a member here longer than you, too. I'm not sure how someone identifies as an "openly female" female though.

Yes, I remembered Haggis, after SAVE,   but was too exhausted with the whole thing to bother editing. 

Openly female is just a comment on society, this is social media and one never knows who is whom.

I seem to remember I was called 'Socks' for a while when I found out about sock puppetry, not sure if that was on here 😀 or another platform, now terminated, but it was a lot more fun!

Edited August 2 by LadyG

[Arthur Marshall]

44 minutes ago, Debby said:

 

I think Haggis beats you by quite a few years as longest surviving female. So does Jeannette Smith Harrison. I've been a member here longer than you, too. I'm not sure how someone identifies as an "openly female" female though.

A lot of people use pseudonyms rather than their name. They could be any of the nineteen genders so far identified, or, in fact, any species. I believe we have at least one neanderthal on the forum and, in the poltics section, several wombats.

[Debby]

12 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

A lot of people use pseudonyms rather than their name. They could be any of the nineteen genders so far identified, or, in fact, any species. I believe we have at least one neanderthal on the forum and, in the poltics section, several wombats.

I hope no one is being misogynistic to a wombat! I never go anywhere near the politics section though, so I wouldn't know!

16 minutes ago, LadyG said:

Yes, I remembered Haggis, after SAVE,   but was too exhausted with the whole thing to bother editing. 

Openly female is just a comment on society, this is social media and one never knows who is whom.

I seem to remember I was called 'Socks' for a while when I found out about sock puppetry, not sure if that was on here 😀 or another platform, now terminated, but it was a lot more fun!

This forum had a few very misogynistic members when I was first on here, and a lot of females left. I haven't noticed any of that for several years, but then it's not something I look for. I'm sure that those who look for these things will find them.

16 minutes ago, LadyG said:

Yes, I remembered Haggis, after SAVE,   but was too exhausted with the whole thing to bother editing. 

Openly female is just a comment on society, this is social media and one never knows who is whom.

I seem to remember I was called 'Socks' for a while when I found out about sock puppetry, not sure if that was on here 😀

 

Edited August 2 by Debby
Got distracted by BattleBots on the telly

[LadyG]

Im not looking for them, I just find the attacks from repeat offenders, people who ive described as keyboard warriors to be very annoying, I have thenm on ignore, and rarely respond to them. The contribute nothing but negativity.

[MtB]

1 hour ago, Debby said:

 

I think Haggis beats you by quite a few years as longest surviving female. So does Jeannette Smith Harrison. I've been a member here longer than you, too. I'm not sure how someone identifies as an "openly female" female though.

 

And of course Jen-in-Wellies who not only registered here in 2008 (nine years before LadyG) and still posts but is a mod too.

 

 

 

[Debby]

7 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

And of course Jen-in-Wellies who not only registered here in 2008 (nine years before LadyG) and still posts but is a mod too.

 

 

 

Ooops! How could I forget Jen-in-Wellies! Apologies.

[Lady M]

Yes me too though I have changed my logon name.

[Tony Brooks]

Then there was Tracy D'Arth who I had great respect for as a long experience and knowledgeable engineer (so knowledgeable that I wrongly assumed she was a he and got told of for it). I understand that she is either very ill or has died, so did not seem to get driven away by misogyny. 

[MtB]

And there is @MrsM who posts regularly and has been here since 2020.

 

 

[LadyG]

12 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

Then there was Tracy D'Arth who I had great respect for as a long experience and knowledgeable engineer (so knowledgeable that I wrongly assumed she was a he and got told of for it). I understand that she is either very ill or has died, so did not seem to get driven away by misogyny. 

Sadly, I think she has passed, was very ill.

[Debby]

Anyway, although I missed out a couple of female posters, for which I apologise, this has confirmed that LadyG is a long way from being the longest surviving female poster on the forum, though she may well be the most prolific!

[LadyG]

19 hours ago, Tentface said:

..... He explained that their marina has no residential moorings, though around 30 users live on their boats. Provided that users don't cite the marina as their address for anything other than getting parcels, and that they have a canalworthy, fully registered and insured boat with a working engine, they aren't residents. Even though they live on the boats moored there.

The idea that you can live on a boat and pretend you are not residential is essentially working the rules. However the rules may change. So if you want to live full time on a boat without Official Residential Planning [Rare],   you may not be " allowed ," to do this without some sort of penalty, probably financial.

Long term, buying a boat is buying a liability, while buying a house is buying an asset.

As things stand you have lots of legal protection in a house, but you do not have any such protection in a boat. I dont think this will change. You are on your own.

 

 

Edited August 3 by LadyG

[Tentface]

Houses with mortgages can be a liability, as friends who bought in 2008 found out. They will never get what they paid, if they decide to sell. We are struggling with mortgage affordability and being trapped in stressful jobs. We'd rather halve our monthly outgoings and get off a street into a home that moves.

 

Out of interest, do you live on a narrowboat? If so, why? You are being very negative about it.