So near and yet so far !

[haggis]

 

Water arrived this morning - all 6 bottles of it - and the guys told us the locks were open so we set  off at 10.30.

The levels seemed ok and all locks were for us till Hassel Green. Slower progress but we were getting there 

 

till we came through lock 61 and were told that there was a queue of boats in the next pound as the next one was dry.

Moored up and the long awaited shower is looking unlikely today. 

The story goes that 2 boats came through at 2am and left paddles up 

Edited July 22 by haggis

[IanD]

12 minutes ago, haggis said:

 

Water arrived this morning - all 6 bottles of it - and the guys told us the locks were open so we set  off at 10.30.

The levels seemed ok and all locks were for us till Hassel Green. Slower progress but we were getting there 

 

till we came through lock 61 and were told that there was a queue of boats in the next pound as the next one was dry.

Moored up and the long awaited shower is looking unlikely today. 

The story goes that 2 boats came through at 2am and left paddles up 

Some boaters are just selfish a*seholes... 😞 

[Arthur Marshall]

If there's a lot of boats and not much water, it could just be not enough coming down. I'm surprised CRT haven't got volunteers organised tomorrow traffic moving.

[haggis]

Made it to Wheelock and filling with water.

What bliss !

[dogless]

Hang around ... if you have really long showers you may need to refill 🤣🤣

 

Glad you made it and hope the rest of your travels are smoother 👍🏻

 

Rog

[Arthur Marshall]

32 minutes ago, haggis said:

Made it to Wheelock and filling with water.

What bliss !

Excellent. A reief, in several senses.

[haggis]

43 minutes ago, dogless said:

Hang around ... if you have really long showers you may need to refill 🤣🤣

 

Glad you made it and hope the rest of your travels are smoother 👍🏻

 

Rog

Thank you. We hope so. 

When we came past the moored boats on our way to fill with water there was a lovely big space . After taking on water we reversed back and found the boat which had been following us bang in the middle. We squeezed in behind them and I don't think they are best pleased with having a boat so near  them .

Tough!!

[IanD]

17 minutes ago, haggis said:

Thank you. We hope so. 

When we came past the moored boats on our way to fill with water there was a lovely big space . After taking on water we reversed back and found the boat which had been following us bang in the middle. We squeezed in behind them and I don't think they are best pleased with having a boat so near  them .

Tough!!

If it was crowded they shouldn't have moored in the middle of the space, to avoid git gaps... 😉 

[MrsM]

Just now, IanD said:

If it was crowded they shouldn't have moored in the middle of the space, to avoid git gaps... 😉 

Exactly. Refers back to your earlier comment about some people (not just boaters) being selfish ar$es.

[Arthur Marshall]

1 hour ago, IanD said:

If it was crowded they shouldn't have moored in the middle of the space, to avoid git gaps... 😉 

Especially when it's so obvious that it's going to be jam packed. And they should have moved to give you space.

[MtB]

1 hour ago, haggis said:

Thank you. We hope so. 

When we came past the moored boats on our way to fill with water there was a lovely big space . After taking on water we reversed back and found the boat which had been following us bang in the middle. We squeezed in behind them and I don't think they are best pleased with having a boat so near  them .

Tough!!

 

I expect you'll be running your engine right up to the 8.00pm deadline then! 

 

 

[Iain_S]

3 hours ago, haggis said:

Thank you. We hope so. 

When we came past the moored boats on our way to fill with water there was a lovely big space . After taking on water we reversed back and found the boat which had been following us bang in the middle. We squeezed in behind them and I don't think they are best pleased with having a boat so near  them .

Tough!!

Even tougher. The boat which was behind us is a couple of feet shorter than us, and has leapfrogged past us and the git gapper to moor in front. Both git gaps filled! 🙂

[system 4-50]

17 minutes ago, Iain_S said:

Even tougher. The boat which was behind us is a couple of feet shorter than us, and has leapfrogged past us and the git gapper to moor in front. Both git gaps filled! 🙂

please can we have gitGap and gitGappers registered as official CWF terminology.

[Arthur Marshall]

I would say I am an inveterate and unapologetic gitgapper. I have suffered time and time again some inconsiderate pleb shoving their stern against mine while I'm sitting on the back with s book, running their engine for hours without apology or explanation and poisoning me with fumes*. In a couple of cases going off for a walk, lesving the engine running. So I always moor as far away from anyone else as I can. Of course, this is also partly consideration on my part, because as you know, I play the trombone.

However, I accept that if space becomes short, or if someone wants to come in and needs a bit more room, it's my job to hop out wave them in and shift the boat, sadly putting away the trombone for another day. As I rarely leave the boat once moored, I'm always about to do it. But I suspect that most of us who leave as much space between us and the next boat as possible do it for reasons of self preservation and not selfishness.

But when it's obvious that every space is going to be filled, I wouldn't!

 

*I mean, why would you spend a day travelling, so your batteries are nicely charged, not to mention the solar, moor up, and then leave the ****ing engine running for an hour while you mither about with ropes, chatting and cups of tea? Why can't they just switch the damn thing off? But nobody ever does... Except me, obviously.

Edited July 22 by Arthur Marshall

[system 4-50]

10 hours ago, system 4-50 said:

please can we have gitGap and gitGappers registered as official CWF terminology.

The "git" element is important, implying a lack of consideration. Hence:

A gitGapper is one who moors in such a way as to leave unusable space when mooring differently would leave usable space, where that usable space is in high demand and short supply, without good reason.

Somebody who moors in such a way as to leave unusable space where there is little demand is not a gitGapper.

Nor is somebody who moors between two short boats which then leave.

Further refinement of the term welcomed.

[Jen-in-Wellies]

You may arrive at a busy mooring with a gitgapped boat, but it could be there were plastic cruisers moored each side, who left just before you arrived and left no time for this considerate boater to adjust their mooring position to leave a gap for you. Or he, or she is just a git!

[IanM]

29 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:

You may arrive at a busy mooring with a gitgapped boat, but it could be there were plastic cruisers moored each side, who left just before you arrived and left no time for this considerate boater to adjust their mooring position to leave a gap for you. Or he, or she is just a git!

 

Indeed.

 

We've arrived at a busy mooring one afternoon and nicely slotted in between two moored boats leaving a few feet at either end.  The next morning the two boats behind and in front of us left to be replaced later in the day by shorter ones which meant there was getting on for a 10-20 ft gap behind and in front of us.  That evening another boat made the comment as they went past about how selfish we were to moor in the middle of the gap!

[haggis]

I know these things can happen but in this instance we saw the big gap and knowing a boat was following we reckoned it would take both boats when we reversed back after taking on water.

We therefore knew that had moored in the middle of the gap.

[IanD]

1 hour ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:

You may arrive at a busy mooring with a gitgapped boat, but it could be there were plastic cruisers moored each side, who left just before you arrived and left no time for this considerate boater to adjust their mooring position to leave a gap for you. Or he, or she is just a git!

Of course that is possible. But when there's a long line of sewer tubes with hardly a yoghurt pot in sight, this often-trotted-out excuse has little credibility, and the last sentence is much more likely to be the case... 😉 

Edited July 23 by IanD

[dogless]

Don't worry about it @IanM ... no matter what one does, some people will always be willing to think the worst of you.

 

Rog

Edited July 23 by dogless
Edit for clarity

[Naughty Cal]

4 hours ago, system 4-50 said:

The "git" element is important, implying a lack of consideration. Hence:

A gitGapper is one who moors in such a way as to leave unusable space when mooring differently would leave usable space, where that usable space is in high demand and short supply, without good reason.

Somebody who moors in such a way as to leave unusable space where there is little demand is not a gitGapper.

Nor is somebody who moors between two short boats which then leave.

Further refinement of the term welcomed.

We used to love those Git Gaps that narrowboatists leave. Almost always the perfect size to squeeze NC into 

[Mac of Cygnet]

I remember squeezing Cygnet (27ft) between two gin palaces at Newark, after carefully eyeing up the gap as I slowly cruised past, the owners looking on in disbelief.  Cygnet's front end was actually underneath the prow of one of them. No-one said anything, but I didn't get the idea I was welcome. 😃

[Jonah]

A bit of a Fred drift, but still about consideration.

When I was an hgv tramper, I pulled into Chester lorry and coach park by the river for an overnight stop, when I noticed a lone reefer /fridge trailer running  - unit and driver gone. That in itself wasn't odd, as some drivers visited/overnighted at relatives, or didn't want to be next to their own noise, so parked elsewhere.

After several hours and no return with the lorry park filling up, spaces were short and no-one wanted to be parked next to that running next door all night, so a crowd of drivers closest decided they would do something about it.

In those days, reefers didn't have fancy covers/aerodynamics installed.

One, armed with a pair of snips, with helped up to the access ladder, (remember, no unit so no catwalk) cut the plastic supply hose, and within seconds the fridge died -  peace, with no chance of turning back on without hose/tools.

I left at 6.30am next morning, and the unit and driver still hadn't returned.

I often wonder what happened with that driver that was entitled/had to park somewhere, and his load that would have been refused on delivery (even if he attempted it) Good job it wasn't boats, as they can sink !

[Naughty Cal]

3 minutes ago, Jonah said:

A bit of a Fred drift, but still about consideration.

When I was an hgv tramper, I pulled into Chester lorry and coach park by the river for an overnight stop, when I noticed a lone reefer /fridge trailer running  - unit and driver gone. That in itself wasn't odd, as some drivers visited/overnighted at relatives, or didn't want to be next to their own noise, so parked elsewhere.

After several hours and no return with the lorry park filling up, spaces were short and no-one wanted to be parked next to that running next door all night, so a crowd of drivers closest decided they would do something about it.

In those days, reefers didn't have fancy covers/aerodynamics installed.

One, armed with a pair of snips, with helped up to the access ladder, (remember, no unit so no catwalk) cut the plastic supply hose, and within seconds the fridge died -  peace, with no chance of turning back on without hose/tools.

I left at 6.30am next morning, and the unit and driver still hadn't returned.

I often wonder what happened with that driver that was entitled/had to park somewhere, and his load that would have been refused on delivery (even if he attempted it) Good job it wasn't boats, as they can sink !

I don't mind the sound of the refrigerated trucks/trailers.

 

It's a constant sound and often drowns out other nearby noise. 

[Jonah]

Haha, just watched a new episode of Outback Truckers where Sludge ( he used to do all the tankerage to remote areas, now semi retired after a bad motorcycle accident, and doing general haulage local-ish)

He pushed on until he was local to his timed drop  In the morning,

for an overnight stop, and was chuffed to bits when he found an ideal spot, only to find shortly after parking, it was next to a main freight line running all night !

Nothing to drown that out !