MtB Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 2 minutes ago, Up-Side-Down said: Very little power is actually required to start rotational air flow and de-stratification, resulting in air moving from one area to another as it rises and falls according to temperature. Domestic convectors (sometimes called radiators!!!!!) demonstrate this on a daily basis ....... So little in fact, that enough energy can flow up that thin metal leg they stand on, in the form of heat! But still they get criticised on here for not being able to blast your hat off at 30 paces...
Up-Side-Down Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 3 minutes ago, MtB said: So little in fact, that enough energy can flow up that thin metal leg they stand on, in the form of heat! But still they get criticised on here for not being able to blast your hat off at 30 paces... Strange isn't it!
Faceandedge Posted July 18 Author Report Posted July 18 Guys, please don’t hijack this post with these eco fans! I have had wood burning stoves for 40 plus years, never needed or never desired a fan. Just choose the right sized stove for your space! 1
Up-Side-Down Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 1 minute ago, Faceandedge said: Guys, please don’t hijack this post with these eco fans! I have had wood burning stoves for 40 plus years, never needed or never desired a fan. Just choose the right sized stove for your space! However, if you have a stove in your back cabin (as you've suggested) and would like a warm living or sleeping area some 15 metres away in the bow of the boat, you might want to start giving one some serious thought .........
Faceandedge Posted July 18 Author Report Posted July 18 Two stove boat, no issues whatsoever! No need for the crappy fans, don’t like the look of them either, too much visual clutter. back cabin with the Epping. Clearview 400 5 kw at front.
Up-Side-Down Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 4 minutes ago, Faceandedge said: Two stove boat, no issues whatsoever! No need for the crappy fans, don’t like the look of them either, too much visual clutter. back cabin with the Epping. Clearview 400 5 kw at front. Perhaps the fumes will simply build up then ...............
Tonka Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 You can't put fans on an Epping. The saucepans take up all the room
b00ke23 Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 22 minutes ago, Faceandedge said: Guys, please don’t hijack this post with these eco fans! Oh the thread isn't even 2 pages long yet...this is nothing. It could yet be hijacked by global warming or a PM 2.5 or a fossil fuel vs wood debate and run to dozens of pages! 1
Arthur Marshall Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 Just now, b00ke23 said: Oh the thread isn't even 2 pages long yet...this is nothing. It could yet be hijacked by global warming or a PM 2.5 or a fossil fuel vs wood debate and run to dozens of pages! It is a little known fact that the heat from a composting toilet will enable an ecofan spread it a distance of... on second thoughts, let's not go there. 2 1
MtB Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 27 minutes ago, Faceandedge said: Clearview 400 5 kw at front. What's wrong with a Squirrel then? The best stove money can buy! Never heard of a Clearview.
Up-Side-Down Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 25 minutes ago, Tonka said: You can't put fans on an Epping. The saucepans take up all the room But you can get a reasonable (Christmas) chicken in t'oven though ............
Faceandedge Posted July 18 Author Report Posted July 18 9 minutes ago, MtB said: What's wrong with a Squirrel then? The best stove money can buy! Never heard of a Clearview. Never rated Squirrel stoves although I’m aware they are very popular. Most of the squirrel stoves I see are look awful with blackened glass generally cause by a back boiler resulting in too low stove box temperature. Don’t like the aesthetics either.. Granted I have never seen a Clearview in a NB either..
springy Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 3 hours ago, Faceandedge said: What stove would you recommend for a back cabin, that looks as authentic as the Epping? I'd love a bolinder in the back cabin, one of these https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bolinders_vedspis.jpg 2
agg221 Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 30 minutes ago, springy said: I'd love a bolinder in the back cabin, one of these So would I, but for now I have to settle for this Bolinder on top of it:, although actually it fits better on the Refleks stove in the front cabin. Alec 2
MtB Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Faceandedge said: Never rated Squirrel stoves although I’m aware they are very popular. Most of the squirrel stoves I see are look awful with blackened glass generally cause by a back boiler resulting in too low stove box temperature. Don’t like the aesthetics either.. Granted I have never seen a Clearview in a NB either.. Squirrels are popular because they work so well, not because they are nice to look at. 1
Faceandedge Posted July 18 Author Report Posted July 18 47 minutes ago, MtB said: Squirrels are popular because they work so well, not because they are nice to look at. Maybe I'm fussy I want both, why on earth wouldn't you want to look at combusting flames dancing through a clear glass on a cold winters evening?! 1 hour ago, springy said: I'd love a bolinder in the back cabin, one of these https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bolinders_vedspis.jpg That is rather lovely.
MtB Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 1 minute ago, Faceandedge said: Maybe I'm fussy I want both, why on earth wouldn't you want to look at combusting flames dancing through a clear glass on a cold winters evening?! Well I've found the glass smokes up on all makes and models of stove I've ever owned. Not just Squirrels. Besides if you can see flames, its burning too fast and won't stay in overnight! 1
Faceandedge Posted July 18 Author Report Posted July 18 1 hour ago, agg221 said: So would I, but for now I have to settle for this Bolinder on top of it:, although actually it fits better on the Refleks stove in the front cabin. Alec Stunning.
MtB Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 2 minutes ago, Faceandedge said: Stunning. I'll let you into a secret.... It's a different Bolinder firm from the one that made those divine engines!
alan_fincher Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 5 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: Worse case - You can be dead but have an authentic looking stove, or alive and have a non authentic looking stove. You don't have to dress in moleskin trousers, wear a wasitcoat and have a red neckerchief either. Yes, but this assumes you can find a non authentic looking range stove alternative to the Epping and which will actually fit in the same small space as an Epping. If you believe such a beast actually exists, will you please post details. I've never heard of any casualties resulting from the use of an Epping. Are there any reported examples of such, please?
Faceandedge Posted July 18 Author Report Posted July 18 Just now, MtB said: Well I've found the glass smokes up on all makes and models of stove I've ever owned. Not just Squirrels. Besides if you can see flames, its burning too fast and won't stay in overnight! I can only speak from house installations, I have had several Clearview stoves and I would have nothing else, they could behave completely differently however on a NB with a shorter flue. I have yet to find out! Once I have evidence, I'll post a pic!
agg221 Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 (edited) 22 minutes ago, MtB said: I'll let you into a secret.... It's a different Bolinder firm from the one that made those divine engines! Actually it isn't. They made a wide range of products, starting in the 19th century as a metalworks, mainly a foundry with a lot of decorative items but also components for steam engines. Their own engines came later but they continued with a range of cookware and various other random objects in parallel. I also have a Bolinder frying pan and a Bolinder casserole dish! Alec Edited July 18 by agg221 1
MtB Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, agg221 said: Actually it isn't. They made a wide range of products, starting in the 19th century as a metalworks, mainly a foundry with a lot of decorative items. Engines came later but they continued with a range of cookware and various other random objects. I also have a Bolinder frying pan and a Bolinder casserole dish! Alec That's curious, I'm sure I got that idea from discussions on here about the "Bolinders" labelled mincers one sees from time to time. People I'd expect to know said there were two separate Bolinder firms. (One doing engines, the other doing kitchenware.) But somehow I'm pleased to learn they are the same firm after all!! Edited July 18 by MtB
agg221 Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 2 minutes ago, MtB said: That's curious, I'm sure I got that idea from discussions on here about the "Bolinders" labelled mincers one sees from time to time. People I'd expect to know said there were two separate Bolinder firms. (One doing engines, the other doing cookware.) They did also make mincers, yes. A photo I have just taken of four random Bolinder's objects that I have to hand. Note the logo on the W3 engine catalogue and compare with the frying pan and Le Creuset style dish - they are identical. The engine spanner has J&CG with a B through the middle - for J & CG Bolinder, as per the kettle. Definitely the same company. I have some other catalogues for decorative objects and engines which similarly show the logo and contact addresses to be the same. One member of the family was an explorer and author and another was an artist, so there are items out there, mainly books and ceramics, which are not from the same company, but the metal objects are all from the same company so far as I am aware. Alec 1
canals are us? Posted July 18 Report Posted July 18 My 14 year old Woodwarm fireview with 10,000 btu back boiler draws well on a 5 inch flue with 28 inch external length chimney. Efficiency around 79% Really like the build quality, double glazed door glass, Grate that can adjust flat/closed for just burning wood and stays in well on Superflame last Winter, or Oxbow red previous Winter. James.
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