Composting toilet

[MrsM]

Portable composting toilet setup being floated on Dragons Den on BBC1 tonight (20:30ish).

ETA aimed at the campervan market.

Posted as it might be of interest to boaters.

Edited February 12 by MrsM
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[Alan de Enfield]

My BBC2 has had the olympics on from 17:15 to 22:00

[MrsM]

2 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

My BBC2 has had the olympics on from 17:15 to 22:00

My mistake - BBC1. Apologies. Think the product plastic-wrapped the toilet contents so it could compost without smelling. They didn't get investment. 

[Tony Brooks]

and none of the dragons showed any knowledge of the time needed for it to properly compost. I can see a lot of filled plastic bags going in domestic waste bins.

[MrsM]

This was the product. 

https://compocloset.co.uk/

[mrsmelly]

9 minutes ago, MrsM said:

My mistake - BBC1. Apologies. Think the product plastic-wrapped the toilet contents so it could compost without smelling. They didn't get investment. 

I did not see it, maybe the Dragons have heard that the UK has houses that are connected to a sewage system and a brilliant cassette system is available so no need to wrap your poo in bags!! 

[MrsM]

2 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

I did not see it, maybe the Dragons have heard that the UK has houses that are connected to a sewage system and a brilliant cassette system is available so no need to wrap your poo in bags!! 

It was aimed at the campervan market.

[Peanut]

Quote: Do I have to empty a composting toilet?

 

"For solids, most people bag them and toss them out with their household waste - kind of like dealing with a used diaper."  😱

Edited February 12 by Peanut
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[mrsmelly]

53 minutes ago, MrsM said:

It was aimed at the campervan market.

Mine had a lovely, simple, ccassette

[MrsM]

2 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Mine had a lovely, simple, ccassette

Mine too and I certainly wouldn't change it. Just posting for interest - not advocating 

[mrsmelly]

13 minutes ago, MrsM said:

Mine too and I certainly wouldn't change it. Just posting for interest - not advocating 

Indeedy, a composting toilet is a solution to a non existant problem 😁

[IanD]

3 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Indeedy, a composting toilet is a solution to a non existant problem 😁

Indeedy, everyone knows a nice clean hygienic pumpout toilet is by *far* the best solution... 😉 

Edited February 12 by IanD

[MrsM]

I had assumed the makers were promoting home composting. Disappointing to see they refer to disposing of it in a domestic bin

[jonathanA]

10 hours ago, mrsmelly said:

Indeedy, a composting toilet is a solution to a non existant problem 😁

Well that's your opinion which you are welcome to.  A few years ago I was contemplating a garden office and a composting toilet was a viable option for a loo in it.  As it happens I decided to retire so didn't need a garden office. 

 

So there is a place for them not sure a campervan or boat is one...

[MtB]

11 hours ago, Peanut said:

Quote: Do I have to empty a composting toilet?

 

"For solids, most people bag them and toss them out with their household waste - kind of like dealing with a used diaper."  😱

 

If one is going to do this, it seems pointless buying a 'composting' toilet simply to collect and bag the poo then dispose of it in the household waste.

 

 

 

 

[mrsmelly]

44 minutes ago, jonathanA said:

Well that's your opinion which you are welcome to.  A few years ago I was contemplating a garden office and a composting toilet was a viable option for a loo in it.  As it happens I decided to retire so didn't need a garden office. 

 

So there is a place for them not sure a campervan or boat is one...

Unless your garden is enormous and you wanted the office a long way from the house then a macerator bog is the way to go. Fit a Saniflo box to the back of the bog ( easy peasy ) and pump it to the  sewer of your house. Mine uses basic 22mm plastic pipe so easy and cheap as chips and will pump 200 feet, others can pump further. Job done and disposed of, I have 2 in my house they make so much sense, can put toilets absolutely anywhere irrespective of fall pipe locations etc etc. 

[jonathanA]

4 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Unless your garden is enormous and you wanted the office a long way from the house then a macerator bog is the way to go. Fit a Saniflo box to the back of the bog ( easy peasy ) and pump it to the  sewer of your house. Mine uses basic 22mm plastic pipe so easy and cheap as chips and will pump 200 feet, others can pump further. Job done and disposed of, I have 2 in my house they make so much sense, can put toilets absolutely anywhere irrespective of fall pipe locations etc etc. 

well that was an option as was simply putting in a proper 4" pipe.  saniflo's are great apart from the noise (all right only for a few minutes) but they are bugger if they get the wrong thing down them...   I've seen them on 22mm copper and its great until something like a cherry stone gets stuck in a 22mm bend.... (DAMHIK). I tend to think they are better with 32 or 40 mm waste.   I'd have probably used 25mm black MDPE chucked in next to the SWA  and water pipe and cat 6 ....  I realised by the time i'd built it i'd be 2 years from retirement....  🙂 

[IanD]

23 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Unless your garden is enormous and you wanted the office a long way from the house then a macerator bog is the way to go. Fit a Saniflo box to the back of the bog ( easy peasy ) and pump it to the  sewer of your house. Mine uses basic 22mm plastic pipe so easy and cheap as chips and will pump 200 feet, others can pump further. Job done and disposed of, I have 2 in my house they make so much sense, can put toilets absolutely anywhere irrespective of fall pipe locations etc etc. 

All fine until a blockage causes a pipe joint to come apart under pressure, resulting in a tsunami of liquefied poo right across the bathroom floor... 😞 

 

(in a Logis Hotel near Calais, not at home...)

 

Not an isolated incident either -- a friend had such a toilet in the basement of their stationery shop, causing much of the contents of said basement having to be junked -- it's amazing how far high-pressure macerated poo can spray. The company who had to replace the adjacent photocopier was not exactly happy either... 😉 

[mrsmelly]

11 minutes ago, IanD said:

All fine until a blockage causes a pipe joint to come apart under pressure, resulting in a tsunami of liquefied poo right across the bathroom floor... 😞 

 

(in a Logis Hotel near Calais, not at home...)

 

Not an isolated incident either -- a friend had such a toilet in the basement of their stationery shop, causing much of the contents of said basement having to be junked -- it's amazing how far high-pressure macerated poo can spray. The company who had to replace the adjacent photocopier was not exactly happy either... 😉 

Poor maintenance as with everything causes problems, bogs are not fit and forget. One of mine was fitted by previous owner fourteen years ago and still perfect, the other we had fitted two years ago. The main thing to remember is there is only one manufacturer to buy from and that is Saniflo in Frog land.

[LadyG]

15 hours ago, MrsM said:

I had assumed the makers were promoting home composting. Disappointing to see they refer to disposing of it in a domestic bin

Ridiculous. Its not a composting toilet, its a bucket with a plastic bag attached.

[Alway Swilby]

3 hours ago, mrsmelly said:

Unless your garden is enormous and you wanted the office a long way from the house then a macerator bog is the way to go. Fit a Saniflo box to the back of the bog ( easy peasy ) and pump it to the  sewer of your house. Mine uses basic 22mm plastic pipe so easy and cheap as chips and will pump 200 feet, others can pump further. Job done and disposed of, I have 2 in my house they make so much sense, can put toilets absolutely anywhere irrespective of fall pipe locations etc etc. 

And then the water/sewage company are quite likely to pump it into a nearby water course. 

[robtheplod]

I'm always amazed how essentially a bucket with a seat can sell for £500+

[LadyG]

You are paying for Research and Development, plus manufacturing, and advertising.

[robtheplod]

44 minutes ago, LadyG said:

You are paying for Research and Development, plus manufacturing, and advertising.

i could understand it if it was radically different to the many others on the market.....

[LadyG]

10 minutes ago, robtheplod said:

i could understand it if it was radically different to the many others on the market.....

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This was superceded when mains sewage became a thing.

 

Edited February 13 by LadyG