Fresh Water Intake

[Deadman0004]

Hi all,

 

We are into our first freeze on our boat. We are reluctant to move while it is still icy but will need water. We appear to only be able to fill the boats tank via a hose that is directly inserted into the boats tank and can't be removed. The hole the hose goes into is in a pretty inaccessible place in the bow.

 

Any recommendations on filling from a container or alternative?

 

Thanks

[Lady M]

You could just use water directly from a suitable container.

[Deadman0004]

Hi, 

 

Yes but that wouldn't help with showers so would need the water in the water tank

[Momac]

Just now, Lady M said:

You could just use water directly from a suitable container.

Beat me to it .

[Deadman0004]

You may have missed the point

[Tony Brooks]

21 minutes ago, Deadman0004 said:

Hi all,

 

We are into our first freeze on our boat. We are reluctant to move while it is still icy but will need water. We appear to only be able to fill the boats tank via a hose that is directly inserted into the boats tank and can't be removed. The hole the hose goes into is in a pretty inaccessible place in the bow.

 

Any recommendations on filling from a container or alternative?

 

Thanks

 

I think that you can get 2 gallon "camping" water carriers with a tap on the side. I think the hose oud attach to tat tap, but you may need a tap connector.

 

Like this one  

 

Other designs available with different taps. maybe get two so  you are filling one while the other fills the boat.

[Lady M]

16 minutes ago, Deadman0004 said:

Hi, 

 

Yes but that wouldn't help with showers so would need the water in the water tank

You should be able to manage without a shower for a day or two at this time of year.  I don't believe this will be an extended freeze.

[Deadman0004]

4 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

I think that you can get 2 gallon "camping" water carriers with a tap on the side. I think the hose oud attach to tat tap, but you may need a tap connector.

 

Like this one  

 

Other designs available with different taps. maybe get two so  you are filling one while the other fills the boat.

Do you think this would be able to flow through the hose into the water tank?

[Deadman0004]

1 minute ago, Lady M said:

You should be able to manage without a shower for a day or two at this time of year.  I don't believe this will be an extended freeze.

Yes we could manage without a shower, however, being able to fill the tank up instead of relying on smaller containers and having to keep refilling would be better

[Lady M]

I have seen people using a water container that rolls.

[magpie patrick]

To make much impact on a conventional tank you'd need a lot of containers, and the tap may be frozen or off when you get to it anyway. Do enough to get by until it's safe to move

[Deadman0004]

7 minutes ago, magpie patrick said:

To make much impact on a conventional tank you'd need a lot of containers, and the tap may be frozen or off when you get to it anyway. Do enough to get by until it's safe to move

Yeah everything is fine at the moment just trying to be prepared 

[Tony Brooks]

14 minutes ago, Lady M said:

I have seen people using a water container that rolls.

 

Yes, but 40/50 litres of water are heavy, and the full container will probably have to be lifted onto the bat roof of the forepeak so it can flow into the tank through gravity. However, you can get a submersible 12V water pump that would probably do the job, as long as the roll along container can be moved onto its side.

 

29 minutes ago, Deadman0004 said:

Do you think this would be able to flow through the hose into the water tank?

 

You would need to lift it up onto the roof, forepeak, or well deck seat so gravity does the job.

 

We used one on the galley draining board when we were aboard in winter with the system drained down.

[IanD]

41 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

Yes, but 40/50 litres of water are heavy, and the full container will probably have to be lifted onto the bat roof of the forepeak so it can flow into the tank through gravity. However, you can get a submersible 12V water pump that would probably do the job, as long as the roll along container can be moved onto its side.

 

You would need to lift it up onto the roof, forepeak, or well deck seat so gravity does the job.

 

We used one on the galley draining board when we were aboard in winter with the system drained down.

There are plenty of rollable water drums compatible with drop-in submersible electric pumps, designed for the caravanning market, which don't need lifting.

Edited January 9 by IanD

[Tony Brooks]

9 minutes ago, IanD said:

There are plenty of rollable water drums compatible with drop-in submersible electric pumps, designed for the caravanning market, which don't need lifting.

 

The option of which I had already mentioned, but of course, accepting that and reading/understanding what was written would not let you have the last word.

 

[IanD]

21 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

The option of which I had already mentioned, but of course, accepting that and reading/understanding what was written would not let you have the last word.

 

Given that it was my first post on the thread I obviously wasn't trying to "have the last word", just provide some helpful information to the OP about the need for lifting/rotating the drum, since you'd warned them about this. You do know this is a discussion forum where people are allowed to post things which might be helpful?

 

Why do you have to be so nasty all the time -- have you eaten a dodgy curry? 😉 

Edited January 9 by IanD

[magnetman]

And

 

 

 

Consider using the tunnel lamp wiring as a power supply for this during the non cruising season. 

Edited January 9 by magnetman

[Tony Brooks]

31 minutes ago, IanD said:

Given that it was my first post on the thread I obviously wasn't trying to "have the last word", just provide some helpful information to the OP about the need for lifting/rotating the drum, since you'd warned them about this. You do know this is a discussion forum where people are allowed to post things which might be helpful?

 

Why do you have to be so nasty all the time -- have you eaten a dodgy curry? 😉 

 

Simply commenting on the way you seem to think your view always trumps anyone else's when they do not agree with you. In fact, the way your posts seem to suggest that you love highly spiced foods I would suggest that you are far more in anger of suffering from a "bad curry" than I am because the food I prefer does not mask the taste of less than fresh food with excess spices. I am not the only member to moment on your apparent need for the last comment on posts you do not agree with.

 

My comment stands, you obviously wanted the last word. The OP had been given the information that you decided to repeat. 

 

The solution @magnetman posted an image of would not require the barrel putting on its side, but some of the images I saw would, or it could not be filled to the brim unless you were willing to spill water when the cap was taken off.

[IanD]

2 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

Simply commenting on the way you seem to think your view always trumps anyone else's when they do not agree with you. In fact, the way your posts seem to suggest that you love highly spiced foods I would suggest that you are far more in anger of suffering from a "bad curry" than I am because the food I prefer does not mask the taste of less than fresh food with excess spices. I am not the only member to moment on your apparent need for the last comment on posts you do not agree with.

 

My comment stands, you obviously wanted the last word. The OP had been given the information that you decided to repeat. 

 

The solution @magnetman posted an image of would not require the barrel putting on its side, but some of the images I saw would, or it could not be filled to the brim unless you were willing to spill water when the cap was taken off.

Looks to me like you're the one who wants the last word, and with another classic ad hominem attack instead of providing any useful information... 😞 

 

Your post was going on about having to lift or tip over the barrel which might indeed be difficult if they're big or the OP is not very strong, I was pointing out that this isn't needed since many of the barrels don't need this, so the OP shouldn't need to worry about it -- in other words, some useful information for the OP. Not having a go at you or "wanting the last word", just doing what the forum is supposed to do... 🙂 

Edited January 9 by IanD

[Tony Brooks]

5 minutes ago, IanD said:

Looks to me like you're the one who wants the last word, and with another classic ad hominem attach instead of providing any useful information... 😞 

 

So when you ask two questions, you really mean that you whant to make comments but not get an answer. This assumes that you know what a question mark signifies.

 

Now you have made your position clear, we can act accordingly. Either answer your question and insinuations (from other posts of yours)  and get attacked again, or ignore you.

[IanD]

Just now, Tony Brooks said:

 

So when you ask two questions, you really mean that you whant to make comments but not get an answer. This assumes that you know what a question mark signifies.

 

Now you have made your position clear, we can act accordingly. Either answer your question and insinuations (from other posts of yours)  and get attacked again, or ignore you.

Oh just give it up, won't you? 😞 

 

Some of us would rather try and help people than attack other posters. Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish...

[bizzard]

Waterloo 

[LadyG]

There may be a gym, a swimming pool nearby, also a spa, and even a night or two in a hotel, airBnB, and so on. Large rail stations.

Its not too difficult to wash one's hair and salvage some rinse water for a quick sponge down.

I never pass a water tap, so im pretty sure I've got 2/3  left, I've got 45l of diesel and am only a few minutes from a garage, checked the ice today, it's thick!

I always have a few bottles of water in hand, not keen on drinking from my tank without boiling.

Edited January 9 by LadyG

[David Mack]

43 minutes ago, bizzard said:

Waterloo 

 

[Victor Vectis]

3 hours ago, bizzard said:

Waterloo 

I'm so old I can remember steam locomotives there.

(And coal mines in Yorkshire)

2 hours ago, David Mack said:

I can remember the debut of that too.