Dog dirt on towpath

[LadyG]

I've complained to the CRT, but I dont expect them to do anything, but they encourage dog walkers,so they should realise the problem.

I put up a notice on my tiller, somebody came on the boat and removed it, that is the type of person that walks his dog here.

They have been throwing dog litter in to the school play area. A notice has been put up.

I have put kitty litter on top so I dont stand on it, but there is another heap today. I'm thinking that some sort of netting on mooring pins might work. 

 

 

[IanM]

10 minutes ago, LadyG said:

I've complained to the CRT, but I dont expect them to do anything, but they encourage dog walkers,so they should realise the problem.

 

So it's CRTs problem that some dog owners don't pick up after their dogs?

 

Hate to break it to you but it happens everywhere.  Just get a stick and flick it into the canal.

[JoeC]

Just because it happens everywhere does not mean that you should accept it.

 

Where I am currently moored (stuck due to winter works which have overrun) there is a boat who lets their three dogs out to run around the basin to do their business. Rarely are the owners in attendance - sometimes they are. There is no attempt afterwards to patrol where their dogs have been to pick up any mess. They also used to let the dogs out and night and then call them back. I spoke with CRT who made a note of the issue and the boat they live on (the boat does not display a boat number but it turns out the boat is known to CRT for other issues). Anyway, CRT say that unless a member of staff catch the dogs doing the business with nobody in attendance then there is not a lot they can do to stop it apart from make a note.

[LadyG]

2 hours ago, IanM said:

 

So it's CRTs problem that some dog owners don't pick up after their dogs?

 

Hate to break it to you but it happens everywhere.  Just get a stick and flick it into the canal.

They should have notices reminding walkers that all litter must be taken home, it's not better by water if it's used as a latrine.

 

Edited January 7 by LadyG

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

32 minutes ago, LadyG said:

I've complained to the CRT, but I dont expect them to do anything, but they encourage dog walkers,so they should realise the problem.

I put up a notice on my tiller, somebody came on the boat and removed it, that is the type of person that walks his dog here.

They have been throwing dog litter in to the school play area. A notice has been put up.

I have put kitty litter on top so I dont stand on it, but there is another heap today. I'm thinking that some sort of netting on mooring pins might work. 

 

 

Maybe move a few hundred yards either way to a less populated place, away from the play area and I’ll mannered locals.

 But when CaRT are encouraging people to use the towpath there’s alway some irresponsible people, just like some irresponsible boaters as mentioned above.

[LadyG]

7 minutes ago, JoeC said:

Just because it happens everywhere does not mean that you should accept it.

 

Where I am currently moored (stuck due to winter works which have overrun) there is a boat who lets their three dogs out to run around the basin to do their business. Rarely are the owners in attendance - sometimes they are. There is no attempt afterwards to patrol where their dogs have been to pick up any mess. They also used to let the dogs out and night and then call them back. I spoke with CRT who made a note of the issue and the boat they live on (the boat does not display a boat number but it turns out the boat is known to CRT for other issues). Anyway, CRT say that unless a member of staff catch the dogs doing the business with nobody in attendance then there is not a lot they can do to stop it apart from make a note.

If they are not conforming to Ts and Cs then they can refuse to licence them. 

Just now, LadyG said:

If they are not conforming to Ts and Cs then they can refuse to licence 

 

[Wafi]

39 minutes ago, LadyG said:

I put up a notice on my tiller, somebody came on the boat and removed it, that is the type of person that walks his dog here.

They have been throwing dog litter in to the school play area. A notice has been put up.

 

2 minutes ago, LadyG said:

They should have notices reminding walkers that all. Utterly must be taken home, it's not better by water if it's used as a latrine.

So the solution to people ignoring notices is that someone (CRT) should put up more notices?

[LadyG]

27 minutes ago, IanM said:

 

So it's CRTs problem that some dog owners don't pick up after their dogs?

 

Hate to break it to you but it happens everywhere.  Just get a stick and flick it into the canal.

It happens everywhere  because too many people have a mindset that they can do what they like.

[magnetman]

If your don't want dog shit outside the door maybe consider not living on a public footpath. 

At the end of the day living beside towpaths is (for now) very cheap so there will be compromises. 

 

Fixing locks is one of the functions of a navigation authority. Stopping the dog shit problem isn't. 

 

Maybe the towpaths should be managed by local authorities. They could start charging people money to tie up. 

 

[mrsmelly]

9 minutes ago, LadyG said:

It happens everywhere  because too many people have a mindset that they can do what they like.

It does happen everywhere. However its useless moaning as that never sorts the problem out, its your environment and unfortunately you have to live among the muck left by low life's. This is a short video voiced by my mate from the pub showing how to deal with it, my missus is amongst the group pictured. They have upped it recently to not only once a month but they all turn out regularly if needed.

 

[jonathanA]

As a responsible dog owner our dog would always be on lead and we would always pick up and bag his shite (and put in a bin). I rather think the folks who don't would regard a proliferation of signs as a badge of honour....

 

There is also the risk of an adverse reaction from otherwise reasonable people a bit like those 'slow down ' signs  that cause  some people to speed up.... 

 

No easy answer I'm afraid...

Edited January 7 by jonathanA
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[Chris John]

It’s the self entitled society we now live in I’m afraid. Self entitlement has got a lot worse since a certain Boris Johnson was in No 10. He thought he could do and say exactly as he pleases (a bit like Trumpski does)  and now unfortunately so do a lot of others 

Edited January 7 by Chris John

[ditchcrawler]

31 minutes ago, LadyG said:

They should have notices reminding walkers that all. Utterly must be taken home, it's not better by water if it's used as a latrine.

 

You already know what they think of notices.

[Wafi]

7 minutes ago, Chris John said:

It’s the self entitled society we now live in I’m afraid.

I disagree, it's not a new phenomenon. It was far worse when I was a kid, it was just a bit easier to see and avoid because so much of it was white.

[IanD]

2 minutes ago, Wafi said:

I disagree, it's not a new phenomenon. It was far worse when I was a kid, it was just a bit easier to see and avoid because so much of it was white.

Dog poo or skin colour? 😉 

[mrsmelly]

12 minutes ago, Wafi said:

I disagree, it's not a new phenomenon. It was far worse when I was a kid, it was just a bit easier to see and avoid because so much of it was white.

Very true.

[magnetman]

30 minutes ago, jonathanA said:

 

No easy answer I'm afraid...

One very easy answer is to not live beside a  public footpath.

 

I spent half of my 32 liveaboard years living beside public footpaths and the other half avoiding them.

 

Guess which approach results in no dog shit on my shoes.

 

Obviously it's rude that people leave it on the path but it is also reality. 

 

It is hard to change the behaviour of others. Much easier to change individual behaviour or accept that if you live in a poorly regulated public realm you will find people respond to the lack of regulation. 

 

Zero mooring fees and dog shit are part of the same story. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 7 by magnetman

[ditchcrawler]

Remember the "Kerb your dog" campaign  Curb your dog - Wikipedia

[magnetman]

I remember in 1990 just after I acquired my lovely lurcher from Battersea dogs home when Argos was selling a product which had a chemical you could pour onto the offending article and it would break down into the ground assuming it was a soft surface like a lawn. 

 

They didn't sell it for long so either it was withdrawn or I just imagined it. 

 

Could be handy. 

 

There is also the balloon system of course. 

 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

5 minutes ago, magnetman said:

There is also the balloon system of course.

 

 

This one ?

 

 

[Speedwheel]

Buy fluorescent paint and circle it all. That can be remarkable effective at making people aware and has a weird psychological effect on them when the problem is highlighted. 

[LadyG]

2 hours ago, Wafi said:

 

So the solution to people ignoring notices is that someone (CRT) should put up more notices?

There are no notices

[ditchcrawler]

3 minutes ago, LadyG said:

There are no notices

You put one up

[LadyG]

25 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

You put one up

Read my post

[Momac]

2 hours ago, Wafi said:

I disagree, it's not a new phenomenon. It was far worse when I was a kid, it was just a bit easier to see and avoid because so much of it was white.

Many years ago I recall on particular seaside  town where the pavements  were paved in dog shit. (It was almost impossible to walk the pavement without treading in some shit). Back then there were no dog poo bags and no dog poo bins.

If you go there now the pavements are paved in chewing gum instead of shit.

 

These days dog owners are far better at picking up after their dogs. 

What has changed significantly  is peoples lack of tolerance to the people who do not clean up after their pets.

Out in the countryside most dog owners don't use a poo bag but nor do they leave their dogs shit on a path.