Russell Newbery DM price

[Faceandedge]

Hi guys, looking for contact details for Russell Newbery?

their website only seems to give a works address?

No email or phone? 
Just wondering just how much a DM2 and associated gearbox/ control package would cost?!

Trying to work out boat build cost options!

Any help much appreciated.

[IanM]

24 minutes ago, Faceandedge said:

Hi guys, looking for contact details for Russell Newbery?

their website only seems to give a works address?

No email or phone? 
Just wondering just how much a DM2 and associated gearbox/ control package would cost?!

Trying to work out boat build cost options!

Any help much appreciated.

 

 

Details look to be on the RN Register site

 

https://www.rnregister.org.uk/rndeco.html

 

 

[David Mack]

Are they still able to supply a complete new engine? Or only (some) parts?

[Faceandedge]

Cheers Ian, I’ll message them and sit down when I get the reply.

[Jen-in-Wellies]

You have passed the first test in prospective ownership by spelling the name right! 😀

[matty40s]

You also need to look at the regulations concerning boat engines and whether you are still allowed to stick an Old/New engine in a new narrowboat(if that is what you are building).

I seem to remember that unless you are building a replica of something historic, it's a no-go nowadays.

[David Mack]

Aren't 'one-off' replicas of historic engines exempt from the noise and emissions requirements of the RCR? Given the number of 'new' engines RN have built recently they probably count as 'one-offs'.

 

[Faceandedge]

Cheers matty40s

that’s something I haven’t considered.

I’ll investigate. Although happy to do a replica, subject to actually liking it!

 

[David Mack]

Just checked. RCR 2017 says:

 

Exclusions

4.—(1) The design and construction requirements set out in Part A of Schedule 1 do not apply to the following watercraft—

...

(e)original historical watercraft and individual replicas thereof designed before 1950 built predominantly with the original materials and labelled as such by the manufacturer;

...

(2) The exhaust emission requirements set out in Part B of Schedule 1 do not apply to the following—

...

(b)original historical propulsion engines and individual replicas thereof, which are based on a pre-1950 design, not produced in series and fitted on watercraft referred to in paragraph 4(1)(e) or paragraph 4(1)(h) above;

...

(3) The noise emission requirements referred to in Part C of Schedule 1 do not apply to—

(a)any watercraft referred to in paragraph (2); and

 

So provided both the boat and the engine are replicas designed before 1950, and not part of a series production, then you can fit the engine, and the RCR exhaust emissions and noise requirements don't apply.

The biggest issue might be whether a typical all welded steel leisure narrowboat with full length cabin can be regarded as a replica of a pre-1950 design. On the other hand, if you go to one of the specialist historic boat builders/repairers and have a boat built which is recognisably a copy of an older craft you might be in a better position.

[Mike Tee]

So can you fit an old refurbished engine into a new boat? If so, the old RN's mentioned in IanM's link would be perfik!

[Faceandedge]

Thank you David I appreciate, you taking the time to look further into this issue. 

I'm more than happy to base the design on a historic craft. 

At the moment I'm thinking tug style, portholes, small forward deck, traditional stern, back cabin, engine room.

Plenty of time it's a retirement project, well hopefully at least.

 

[matty40s]

Do NOT wait until you retire, start now!!

I have seen all the below happen to people I know, both friends, aquaintances and even boat owners already.

1. Too many people look at retirement projects and are then too unfit/unable to do the locks and physical work of cruising.

2. If you wait, all of a sudden as a retired person, your services are needed by various layers of family as child minding, school transport, pet feeder/walker, 

3. Commissioning a boat when retired may well take 2 years to come to fruition...and by then, both 1 and 2 may have happened, or you may find that the waterways no longer appeals as licencing/ user fees/ maintenance proves excessive.

[Faceandedge]

Thanks Matty40s

I can see where you are coming from, however, too busy working!

I’m a self employed cabinet maker.

The plan is to buy a hull/ shell and fit it out myself here at the workshop in my own time.

Rent out the house and travel the entire network, well at least where  58-60 ft will go.

That’s the initial plan anyway.

I was thinking I might not get enough exercise  if I’m honest as a retiree on the boat?

 

[stagedamager]

when it comes to boatbuilding and fitting out, whatever timeframe you have, triple it!!!!

Do you have a boatbuilder in mind? depending on the style, and budget, most have pretty full order books.

 

Kind regards

 

Dan

[Faceandedge]

Hey Dan

I’m doing myself!

Although, I do have the advantage of being a cabinet maker with my own manufacturing workshop and spraying facilities.

However, never fitted out a narrow boat before..

But I think I’m looking forward to fitting as much as time on the canal.

Let’s hope I still feel that way upon completion!

 

[matty40s]

1 hour ago, stagedamager said:

 

Do you have a boatbuilder in mind? depending on the style, and budget, most have pretty full order books.

 

Kind regards

 

Dan

I know someone with a 72 foot space in his yard......

[Ray T]

1 hour ago, Faceandedge said:

Hey Dan

I’m doing myself!

Although, I do have the advantage of being a cabinet maker with my own manufacturing workshop and spraying facilities.

However, never fitted out a narrow boat before..

But I think I’m looking forward to fitting as much as time on the canal.

Let’s hope I still feel that way upon completion!

 

 Throw away your spirit level. 😀

 

If you look at most narrow boats they ride bow high.

Edited November 5 by Ray T

[stagedamager]

1 minute ago, Ray T said:

 Throw away your spirit level. 😀

100% this!!!

 

[David Mack]

1 hour ago, Faceandedge said:

Hey Dan

I’m doing myself!

I think the question related to who is going to build the shell, not the fitting out.

If you are thinking tug style, portholes, small forward deck, traditional stern, back cabin, engine room, then you are not going to find that on an off-the-shelf sailaway shell - you are looking at commissioning a bespoke build from one of the small number of specialist boatbuilders who can do this. And they tend to be booked up well ahead.

[stagedamager]

2 hours ago, matty40s said:

I know someone with a 72 foot space in his yard......

i'm enjoying the start of at least 2 years off after that......🤣

[MtB]

5 hours ago, stagedamager said:

i'm enjoying the start of at least 2 years off after that......🤣

 

You're gonna build a butty for the NORWAY after two years?!!! 

 

YAY!!!!