Big Bob W Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 Not sure how restricting operating times for Harecastle Tunnel conserves water. 🤔 Navigation Restriction Harecastle Tunnel Details Type: Navigation Restriction Waterway(s): Trent & Mersey Canal From: 11 August 2025, 9am To: On-going Region: West Midlands Reason: Low Water Levels Subject to review on: 29 August 2025 Location Closest waterway: Trent & Mersey Canal Starts at: Harecastle Tunnel Ends at: Harecastle Tunnel Description Original 31 July 2025, 4:46pm Following one of the driest springs on record, water availability across the region remains significantly below average. To help conserve increasingly limited water resources, protect canal infrastructure and ecology, and prolong navigation elsewhere on the network, we will be implementing the following change: From Monday 11 August 2025, Harecastle Tunnel will operate on restricted hours, with passages available between 9:00am and 1:00pm only. All passages must be pre-booked via our online booking system. 2
Tonka Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 If the water is too low you can't get through.
magnetman Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 Presumably that would depend on your drought. No. Draught.
Big Bob W Posted July 31, 2025 Author Report Posted July 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, Tonka said: If the water is too low you can't get through. So are the water levels OK between 9am and 1pm? 2 1
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, Tonka said: If the water is too low you can't get through. but the question is asking how going through the tunnel uses water ? 1
magnetman Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) . Edited July 31, 2025 by magnetman 1
Rob-M Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 I guess levels can be left to recover from 1pm to 9am as there will be less boats moving through the locks to the Harecastle level.
ditchcrawler Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rob-M said: I guess levels can be left to recover from 1pm to 9am as there will be less boats moving through the locks to the Harecastle level. Then surly it is them that require restricting Cheshire Locks and Stoke Edit to add Maybe its CRT again trying to get all boaters booking the tunnel and not just turning up. No booking for the day, no staff needed Edited July 31, 2025 by ditchcrawler I like adding bits
Rob-M Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 1 minute ago, ditchcrawler said: Then surly it is them that require restricting Cheshire Locks and Stoke Maybe, perhaps restricting the tunnel is easier as the volunteers can just go home.
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 8 minutes ago, Rob-M said: I guess levels can be left to recover from 1pm to 9am as there will be less boats moving through the locks to the Harecastle level. Yeah, I kind of wondered if it could be a recovery of the water level thing, or maybe we get a window to pass through while the zombie bats are asleep 🤷♀️
haggis Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 With all the closures/ restrictions on the approaches to Harecastle there are possibly fewer boats going through and as someone said, it will save having tunnel operators twiddling their thumbs for most of the day
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 12 minutes ago, haggis said: it will save having tunnel operators twiddling their thumbs for most of the day which is more to the point 👍
dogless Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 We came through (heading south) last Sunday at 8am, and were warned by staff that the level was down 4 to 5 inches. I suspect although the level is down, that the restriction is more focussed on rationalising man hours in light of the T&M being locked off at lock 41 and the Macclesfield being shut at Bosley. We came through all alone, and the restrictions must be significantly limiting traffic compared to the usual July/August period. Rog 2
Arthur Marshall Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) As the only functioning locks near the tunnel are the Stoke flight, I suppose limiting tunnel traffic will have the knock on effect of limiting their use too. Last time there was a major water shortage, I had to wait two days before we could get through the tunnel and the Stoke flight closed completely a week later. If it's the end if turn up and go, it's going to play even more havoc with the Heritage hire fleet. I'm a bit surprised they're still operating. Anyone know what the water levels are like between Stoke and Stone? Edited to add the Caldon is closing too: "Update 31 July 2025, 5:23pm Please be advised that from Monday 11th August, the Caldon Canal will be closed to navigation, from Lock 1 to Froghall Basin" Which implies CRT are seriously worried about the level on the summit. Edited July 31, 2025 by Arthur Marshall
Baralacha Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 I can tell you that only one boat (an overstaying cabin cruiser) was moored at Westport Lake when I walked there yesterday. One single boat! Two weeks ago it had been thronged with mobile traders and those going to, or coming from, the tunnel. Far fewer boats moving on this stretch.
Arthur Marshall Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 40 minutes ago, Baralacha said: I can tell you that only one boat (an overstaying cabin cruiser) was moored at Westport Lake when I walked there yesterday. One single boat! Two weeks ago it had been thronged with mobile traders and those going to, or coming from, the tunnel. Far fewer boats moving on this stretch. One of the throng was probably me, legging it back to my mooring on the Macc while I could still get there. I'm giving up on summer cruising, early spring next year I think.
Stroudwater1 Posted July 31, 2025 Report Posted July 31, 2025 46 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said: One of the throng was probably me, legging it back to my mooring on the Macc while I could still get there. I'm giving up on summer cruising, early spring next year I think. You’ll have sold up before then Arthur, so I read..
Arthur Marshall Posted August 1, 2025 Report Posted August 1, 2025 8 hours ago, Stroudwater1 said: You’ll have sold up before then Arthur, so I read.. I keep forgetting that... it may be the triumph of hope over experience, but the thought of having no boat, when it comes to the crunch, just seems, well, silly! 3 1
Wafi Posted August 1, 2025 Report Posted August 1, 2025 12 hours ago, Arthur Marshall said: One of the throng was probably me, legging it back to my mooring on the Macc while I could still get there. Wouldn't it have been easier to use the motor, especially outside the tunnel? 😉 1
Arthur Marshall Posted August 1, 2025 Report Posted August 1, 2025 9 minutes ago, Wafi said: Wouldn't it have been easier to use the motor, especially outside the tunnel? 😉 I wondered why I was so knackered at the other end.
robtheplod Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 We left Aston Marina this morning and can see the water is now about 2" down on normal.....
beerbeerbeerbeerbeer Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 17 minutes ago, robtheplod said: We left Aston Marina this morning and can see the water is now about 2" down on normal..... do what I do, keep removing the ballast, 😃 1
Mike Tee Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 Throw the ballast in the canal, that will help raise the level........
magnetman Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) Encourage more widebeans to be craned in. If the level is below weir then it would go up. Alternatively sell the edge of the canal to Sustrans. They can then fill in their parcel thereby reducing the volume of the pounds which would make the levels higher with the same amount of water. Also if they owned 5ft of the edge they could ban mooring and have mamils to do the enforcement. Win win situation. Edited August 7, 2025 by magnetman Double post
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