Hawkesbury CSF closed UFN

[Hudds Lad]

Anyone on the ground heard any rumours as to why/how long?

Might be headed that way in a couple of weeks time and usually like to empty a cassette there, we have enough spares to get to Atherstone no probs but it can be a pain if busy.

 

Customer Service Facility

Hawkesbury CSF

Details

Type: Customer Service Facility
Waterway(s): Oxford Canal
From: 18 July 2025, 3:30pm
To: On-going
Region: West Midlands
Reason: Information
Subject to review on: 26 September 2025

Location

Closest waterway: Oxford Canal
Starts at: Hawkesbury CSF
Ends at: Hawkesbury CSF

Description

Original 18 July 2025, 3:37pm

 

Please be advised that the customer service facilities at Sutton Stop (Hawkesbury) are closed with immediate effect until further notice.

This closure affects access to the toilets and elsan, which will not be in use during this period.

Please note the bin store located within the car park compound will remain open.

Alternative facilities are available at Coventry Basin and Atherstone Top Lock.

Information

You can view this notice and its map online here:
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/01981df1-bdb4-7712-84fc-7cb0725703d2

You can find all notices at the url below:
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices

[Lily Rose]

 

 

Just been updated. Sounds like it might be a while!

 

Following a recent inspection of the roof structure at Sutton Stop (Hawkesbury) customer service facilities, the building has been deemed structurally unsafe to enter. As a result, the facilities will remain closed on safety grounds while an assessment is made.

This closure continues to affect access to both the toilets and the elsan point.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

47 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said:

Anyone on the ground heard any rumours as to why/how long?

bet you a pint it’ll never reopen,

the building will be left to rot and the land sold to developers to build houses 

 

we’ll be told to use the services at Cov Basin,

which are very nice

[Hudds Lad]

6 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

bet you a pint it’ll never reopen,

the building will be left to rot and the land sold to developers to build houses

It does have quite a good footprint i suppose. Have heard somewhere that they're trying to make it so services are not undercover/housed, take with huge pinch of salt.

 

8 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

we’ll be told to use the services at Cov Basin,

which are very nice

 It's just the getting to them that's not so nice for your prop  

[dogless]

Are you suggesting @beerbeerbeerbeerbeer that  CRT would 'temporarily' close an elsan point and then never re open it ?

 

It never happens ... well apart from Hurleston ... and Autherley  ... oh and Berkhampstead .

 

Forget it.

 

Rog

Edited July 21 by dogless

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

39 minutes ago, dogless said:

Are you suggesting @beerbeerbeerbeerbeer that  CRT would 'temporarily' close an elsan point and then never re open it ?

 

It never happens ... well apart from Hurleston ... and Autherley  ... oh and Berkhampstead .

 

Forget it.

 

Rog

if they can wiggle out of maintaining a service because there might be marinas or wharfs in the area they definitely will,

 

 

I’m trying to think what’s within a few miles of the junction,

have Boot Wharf an elsan?

 

 

Edited July 21 by beerbeerbeerbeerbeer
Remember Fazeley Junction?

[Hudds Lad]

12 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

have Boot Wharf an elsan?

Map says yes, but i've never used it.

Or there's Brinklow, if they allow non-moorers in.

Or Trinity if you don't mind a scrape up the Ashby (oo-err missus).

Edited July 21 by Hudds Lad

[Steve Bassplayer]

2 hours ago, Hudds Lad said:

Anyone on the ground heard any rumours as to why/how long?

Might be headed that way in a couple of weeks time and usually like to empty a cassette there, we have enough spares to get to Atherstone no probs but it can be a pain if busy.

 

Customer Service Facility

Hawkesbury CSF

Details

Type: Customer Service Facility
Waterway(s): Oxford Canal
From: 18 July 2025, 3:30pm
To: On-going
Region: West Midlands
Reason: Information
Subject to review on: 26 September 2025

Location

Closest waterway: Oxford Canal
Starts at: Hawkesbury CSF
Ends at: Hawkesbury CSF

Description

Original 18 July 2025, 3:37pm

 

Please be advised that the customer service facilities at Sutton Stop (Hawkesbury) are closed with immediate effect until further notice.

This closure affects access to the toilets and elsan, which will not be in use during this period.

Please note the bin store located within the car park compound will remain open.

Alternative facilities are available at Coventry Basin and Atherstone Top Lock.

Information

You can view this notice and its map online here:
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/01981df1-bdb4-7712-84fc-7cb0725703d2

You can find all notices at the url below:
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices

We used it yesterday (20th) with no problem (the Elsan around the back of the building on the bin side). 

 

I read the original 18/7/25 notice and checked with one of the permanent moorers there first, he said nobody he knew on the moorings knew about it! Mind you they might not get the updates

 

 

 

 

[Wafi]

1 hour ago, Hudds Lad said:

Map says yes, but i've never used it.

Or there's Brinklow, if they allow non-moorers in.

Or Trinity if you don't mind a scrape up the Ashby (oo-err missus).

Pretty sure Rose Narrowboats at Stretton Stop do pump out, presumably they'd have somewhere to empty your cassette for a suitable fee

[Rob-M]

There is elsan and water at Rugby visitor moorings.

[Lily Rose]

2 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

There is elsan and water at Rugby visitor moorings.

 

And by the bridge at Hillmorton locks.

 

Both Elsans are easy to miss if you're not aware of them.

[Rob-M]

2 minutes ago, Lily Rose said:

 

And by the bridge at Hillmorton locks.

 

Both Elsans are easy to miss if you're not aware of them.

I only knew there was one at Rugby when the person from the boat in front wandered off with their elsan, I initially thought they were going to empty it in the public toilets.

[magnetman]

Interesting to put the Elsan hopper on the stoppages page. 

 

I suppose it could a stoppage of sorts to be fair. 

 

 

 

The canal is not working? 

 

 

[David Mack]

5 hours ago, Lily Rose said:

Following a recent inspection of the roof structure at Sutton Stop (Hawkesbury) customer service facilities, the building has been deemed structurally unsafe to enter.

 

5 hours ago, Hudds Lad said:

Have heard somewhere that they're trying to make it so services are not undercover/housed

Sounds like if they leave it a bit longer these services won't be under cover!

[magnetman]

I never understood why this sort of thing would be in a building in the first place. 

 

I think the CRT had some problems with vagrants and vandalism so it would be rather obviously to just have a hopper in the open. 

 

De people worry about privacy when emptying the contents of their shit suitcases? 

 

 

[David Mack]

15 minutes ago, magnetman said:

De people worry about privacy when emptying the contents of their shit suitcases? 

I think it's the other way round. Do people just walking alongside the canal want to come across someone emptying their shit? I have long thought the open air elsan point on the towpath at Braunston between the A45 bridge and the marina entrance to be particularly badly sited in that regard.

Edited July 21 by David Mack

[ditchcrawler]

3 minutes ago, David Mack said:

I think it's the other way round. Do people just walking alongside the canal want to come across someone emptying their shit? I have long thought the open air elsan point on the towpath at Braunston between the A45 bridge and the marina entrance to be particularly badly sited in that regard.

Better than one on the Avon 

[PaulJ]

7 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

Better than one on the Avon 

Ive felt guilty using that when someone is just locking through at the same time 😀

[magnetman]

Maybe a wall but a roof? It seems a little over the top. 

 

I suppose a CSF has other facilities in it. The question then must be why would the CRT be paying for anything other than basic facilities? 

 

Elsan with a wall. 

Bin.

Stand pipe not adjacent to the elsan. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These used to be called RSW. Rubbish Shit Water. When did they become CSF? It sounds like some sort of dodgy disease. 

 

 

 

A terrible case of CSF been under the doctor for months. 

[ditchcrawler]

34 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Maybe a wall but a roof? It seems a little over the top. 

 

I suppose a CSF has other facilities in it. The question then must be why would the CRT be paying for anything other than basic facilities? 

 

Elsan with a wall. 

Bin.

Stand pipe not adjacent to the elsan. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These used to be called RSW. Rubbish Shit Water. When did they become CSF? It sounds like some sort of dodgy disease. 

 

 

 

A terrible case of CSF been under the doctor for months. 

I think there is also a toilet, maybe they didn't want it in the open

[magnetman]

1 minute ago, ditchcrawler said:

I think there is also a toilet, maybe they didn't want it in the open

 

Yes but why would the navigation authority be putting in a toilet block? 

 

I know at one time navigation authorities were dealing with public amenity but now there is no money left these things need to be taken out or it is going to get too expensive. 

 

Nobody on a Boat needs a lavatory because they have one already. 

[ditchcrawler]

4 minutes ago, magnetman said:

 

Yes but why would the navigation authority be putting in a toilet block? 

 

I know at one time navigation authorities were dealing with public amenity but now there is no money left these things need to be taken out or it is going to get too expensive. 

 

Nobody on a Boat needs a lavatory because they have one already. 

They have them all over the system. At one time they were even installing washing machines.

[magnetman]

Yes and apparently showers. 

 

I am not sure what behaviour BW or the CRT were trying to encourage by doing this. 

 

It is a curious situation. Presumably there was external funding. Perhaps something to do with disability rights ? 

 

 

[DShK]

1 hour ago, magnetman said:

Yes and apparently showers. 

 

I am not sure what behaviour BW or the CRT were trying to encourage by doing this. 

 

It is a curious situation. Presumably there was external funding. Perhaps something to do with disability rights ? 

 

 

There is historical precedent from the working days of trying to encourage boaters to wash 😂

[MtB]

15 hours ago, David Mack said:

 

Sounds like if they leave it a bit longer these services won't be under cover!

 

The one just mentioned at Hilmorton is open air (IIRC)!