Waterskiing and other questions

[Trravelling Man]

I am a "former" Challenger shareholder, in light of the current situation I came and had a look at this site to see if any advice or suggestions had been posted here. I have since found another site that had been set up to provide us with all of the info that we need to continue our syndicates.

 

I did however learn a few things as I was browsing through the site so thought I'd ask the advice of some of you proper boaters on a few issues I've got.

 

I reference the following thread:

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php...p;hl=challenger[/url]

 

I'm having problems getting my boat up to full waterskiing speed. This is a problem as my wife gets a bit bored whilst cruising long pounds and is an excellent waterskier. Has anyone tried to fit hydrofoils to their narrowboat, and have they found it sucessful? There are of course safety issues to consider. Is it compulsory to have a "spotter" on the counter to monitor the skier? I've checked our licence and Waterscape but there is no mention of it. Also could you advise if there is a commercially available prop-shield in case the skier is not able to stop as fast as the boat.

 

Could some proper boaters also suggest a suitable pound for skiing? All of my tests have been carried out on the Sutton Stop to Hilmorton locks pound but I keep coming unstuck when the footbridge is closed at Rose Narrowboats. I hear the Bridgewater may be more suitable.

 

I would also like to ask some proper boaters if they know of a School of Arrogance in which I can enrol. I've tried but nothing in my expensive public school education taught me how to be a fully fledged nasty stuck-up p**k, no matter how hard I try.

 

Perhaps a proper boater could also offer some advice on running a boat, I don't believe our syndicate's combined 178 years boating experience is really going to be enough to "do the arranging" by ourselves and would hate to pass you at full skiing speed whilst looking haggared.

 

Finally, can anyone help with a secure gun case I can keep on the roof to repel boarders? Leaving my Remington 700 LVSF vermin rifle on the roof is probably a bit irresponsibe, I realise that a lot of us Chellenger owners do it but I agree it could endanger life if not secured properly.

 

Sorry for so many questions but my 23 years service in the Royal Navy has clearly not prepared me for the rigours of the inland waterways mastered by you proper boaters.

[Moley]

I like your style.

 

Welcome to the forum

[WJM]

You are taking the wrong approach - you can ski perfectly well on a door or the lid of a large wheelie bin without over-stressing your engine.

 

True story: When I was a kid there was a family who lived near us who used to ski on the canal using snow skis. The dad drove along the towpath in a battered old Renault 4 while the kids floundered about on the end of a rope tied to the rear bumper.

[Yoda]

You are taking the wrong approach - you can ski perfectly well on a door or the lid of a large wheelie bin without over-stressing your engine.

 

True story: When I was a kid there was a family who lived near us who used to ski on the canal using snow skis. The dad drove along the towpath in a battered old Renault 4 while the kids floundered about on the end of a rope tied to the rear bumper.

 

That's a namby pamby way to do it. I barefoot ski off the back of the boat and use the lock gates as jumps.

[Chris-B]

Best done on a pound that is going downhill

[AMModels]

I would also like to ask some proper boaters if they know of a School of Arrogance in which I can enrol. I've tried but nothing in my expensive public school education taught me how to be a fully fledged nasty stuck-up p**k, no matter how hard I try.

 

I beg to differ

 

 

Sorry for so many questions but my 23 years service in the Royal Navy has clearly not prepared me for the rigours of the inland waterways mastered by you proper boaters.

 

Just as our years spent 'proper boating' as you call it leaves us totally unprepared to pilot a Royal Navy aircraft carrier out of Devonport.

 

People have different experiemnces of Challenger owners and have voiced them, it doesnt mean to say that all Challenger boaters are the same and those in your syndicate may have all those years experience but if they share your personality it doesnt make up for it.

 

We've just gone through a really terrible period on the board with nasty posts and some bullyiong going on, I hope this wont develop the same way.

Welcome to the forum, how about winding your neck in and seeing boaters for what they are. People.

Edited January 10, 2008 by AMModels

[Keeping Up]

I wish I'd kept my original BW licence. I'm fairly sure it had a paragraph that specifically permitted water-skiing (provided it was done in accordance with all the other conditions of course).

[Trravelling Man]

I beg to differ

Just as our years spent 'proper boating' as you call it leaves us totally unprepared to pilot a Royal Navy aircraft carrier out of Devonport.

 

People have different experiemnces of challenger owners and have voiced them, it doesnt mean to say that all Challenged boaters are the same and those in your syndicate may have all those years experience but if they share your personality it doesnt make up for it.

 

We've just gone through a really terrible period on the board with nasty posts and some bullyiong going on, I hope this wont develop the same way.

Welcome to the forum, how about winding your neck in and seeing boaters for what they are. People.

 

Andy - FYI

 

Humour or humor (see spelling differences) is the ability or quality of people, objects, or situations to evoke feelings of amusement in other people. The term encompasses a form of entertainment or human communication which evokes such feelings, or which makes people laugh or feel happy. The origin of the term derives from the humoral medicine of the ancient Greeks, which stated that a mix of fluids known as humours (Greek: χυμός, chymos, literally: juice or sap, metaphorically: flavour) controlled human health and emotion.

 

A sense of humour is the ability to experience humour, a quality which all people share, although the extent to which an individual will personally find something humorous depends on a host of absolute and relative variables, including geographical location, culture, maturity, level of education, intelligence, and context. For example, young children (of any background) may possibly favour slapstick, such as Punch and Judy puppet shows or cartoons e.g. Tom and Jerry. Satire may rely more on understanding the target of the humour, and thus tends to appeal to more mature audiences. Non-satirical humour can be specifically termed "recreational drollery".[1][2]

[Lady Muck]

I still think that a special irony font that we could use when we were being ironic or sarcastic on t'internet might be a good idea.....

Edited January 10, 2008 by Lady Muck

[gaggle]

[quote name='AMModels' date='Jan 10 2008, 04:21 PM' post='193624'

 

your syndicate may have all those years experience but if they share your personality it doesnt make up for it.

 

We've just gone through a really terrible period on the board with nasty posts and some bullyiong going on, I hope this wont develop the same way.

Welcome to the forum, how about winding your neck in and seeing boaters for what they are. People.

 

nice.

 

t man you will have to just put up with some of the posters , dont answer back , they cry easily.

[honey ryder]

I am a "former" Challenger shareholder, in light of the current situation I came and had a look at this site to see if any advice or suggestions had been posted here. I have since found another site that had been set up to provide us with all of the info that we need to continue our syndicates.

 

I did however learn a few things as I was browsing through the site so thought I'd ask the advice of some of you proper boaters on a few issues I've got.

 

I reference the following thread:

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php...p;hl=challenger[/url]

 

I'm having problems getting my boat up to full waterskiing speed. This is a problem as my wife gets a bit bored whilst cruising long pounds and is an excellent waterskier. Has anyone tried to fit hydrofoils to their narrowboat, and have they found it sucessful? There are of course safety issues to consider. Is it compulsory to have a "spotter" on the counter to monitor the skier? I've checked our licence and Waterscape but there is no mention of it. Also could you advise if there is a commercially available prop-shield in case the skier is not able to stop as fast as the boat.

 

Could some proper boaters also suggest a suitable pound for skiing? All of my tests have been carried out on the Sutton Stop to Hilmorton locks pound but I keep coming unstuck when the footbridge is closed at Rose Narrowboats. I hear the Bridgewater may be more suitable.

 

I would also like to ask some proper boaters if they know of a School of Arrogance in which I can enrol. I've tried but nothing in my expensive public school education taught me how to be a fully fledged nasty stuck-up p**k, no matter how hard I try.

 

Perhaps a proper boater could also offer some advice on running a boat, I don't believe our syndicate's combined 178 years boating experience is really going to be enough to "do the arranging" by ourselves and would hate to pass you at full skiing speed whilst looking haggared.

 

Finally, can anyone help with a secure gun case I can keep on the roof to repel boarders? Leaving my Remington 700 LVSF vermin rifle on the roof is probably a bit irresponsibe, I realise that a lot of us Chellenger owners do it but I agree it could endanger life if not secured properly.

 

Sorry for so many questions but my 23 years service in the Royal Navy has clearly not prepared me for the rigours of the inland waterways mastered by you proper boaters.

 

 

Brilliant! what a great post.

 

I aspire to be a proper boater one day, perhaps you can give me some pointers?

 

I heard rumours of nuclear sub testing on some of the deeper cuts, Id like to know how what ettiquette I should observe when I see a periscope bearing down on me... should i give way to port or starboard?

[Sir Nibble]

I like your style.

 

Welcome to the forum

Me too!

[greywolf]

Andy - FYI

 

Humour or humor (see spelling differences) is the ability or quality of people, objects, or situations to evoke feelings of amusement in other people. The term encompasses a form of entertainment or human communication which evokes such feelings, or which makes people laugh or feel happy. The origin of the term derives from the humoral medicine of the ancient Greeks, which stated that a mix of fluids known as humours (Greek: χυμός, chymos, literally: juice or sap, metaphorically: flavour) controlled human health and emotion.

 

A sense of humour is the ability to experience humour, a quality which all people share, although the extent to which an individual will personally find something humorous depends on a host of absolute and relative variables, including geographical location, culture, maturity, level of education, intelligence, and context. For example, young children (of any background) may possibly favour slapstick, such as Punch and Judy puppet shows or cartoons e.g. Tom and Jerry. Satire may rely more on understanding the target of the humour, and thus tends to appeal to more mature audiences. Non-satirical humour can be specifically termed "recreational drollery".[1][2]

 

 

And sarcasm is the lowest form of humor, sorry you are involved with the liquidation issues hope it works out in the long run, this site is a nice place to visit as you will find if you continue to read the various posts and full of usfull imformation.

[AMModels]

Andy - FYI

 

Humour or humor (see spelling differences) is the ability or quality of people, objects, or situations to evoke feelings of amusement in other people. The term encompasses a form of entertainment or human communication which evokes such feelings, or which makes people laugh or feel happy. The origin of the term derives from the humoral medicine of the ancient Greeks, which stated that a mix of fluids known as humours (Greek: χυμός, chymos, literally: juice or sap, metaphorically: flavour) controlled human health and emotion.

 

A sense of humour is the ability to experience humour, a quality which all people share, although the extent to which an individual will personally find something humorous depends on a host of absolute and relative variables, including geographical location, culture, maturity, level of education, intelligence, and context. For example, young children (of any background) may possibly favour slapstick, such as Punch and Judy puppet shows or cartoons e.g. Tom and Jerry. Satire may rely more on understanding the target of the humour, and thus tends to appeal to more mature audiences. Non-satirical humour can be specifically termed "recreational drollery".[1][2]

 

 

Humour I understand Humor is just american and therefore unworthy of consideration.

 

I think everyone realised you were attempting sarcasm/humour surely you didnt expect to post and recieve no critical comments tho??

 

Oh and I think context was the most important part of your explanation but thanks for including the rest.

[Chris-B]

Going to keep my head down in case of flying toys

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stunning post BTW and welcome

[NB Alnwick]

I'm having problems getting my boat up to full waterskiing speed. This is a problem as my wife gets a bit bored whilst cruising long pounds and is an excellent waterskier. Has anyone tried to fit hydrofoils to their narrowboat, and have they found it sucessful?

 

With a decent hull design the hydrofoils won't be necessary - as long as you have a enough power.

 

We find that the best section of canal for waterskiing is between Braunston and Wigrams Turn - with a decent Westerly of the sort that we experienced yesterday, your wife could also have a go at parrascending - much more exciting than tapping the keys of a computer . . .

 

Welcome aboard - there are a lot of us here and we haven't all made rude remarks about Challenger crews!

[Trravelling Man]

Apologies if I offended anyone with my posting, it really was just meant as humour (or humor!!!!).

 

I have to say I was a little shocked at some of the comments directed at Challenger owners - albeit a really small minority.

 

I do however have no problem being called Challenged - I'm financially challenged else I'd have my own boat and not just 5' 5" of one (which in my case is probably the toilet) !!!

 

I have to agree with Andy on one point - we're all boaters!

 

[AMModels]

I dont think anyone has called Challenger owners challenged....challenging maybe

 

I also think I need to take my own advice, along with my meds, and wind my neck in a bit.

 

Apologies all round for being a bit combative in my previous posts.

[Hairy-Neil]

I dont think anyone has called Challenger owners challenged....

 

Ahem, I believe you did Andy....check back to post No. 6

 

 

We find that the best section of canal for waterskiing is between Braunston and Wigrams Turn -

 

There's better. Try the BCN mainline as you head out from Farmers Bridge as far as Winston Green Stop.....I've known a boat pull down so far the counter was under water.....

Edited January 10, 2008 by Hairy-Neil

[AMModels]

OOOps I shall edit that straight away, it was a genuine sliped finger.

[NFA]

....................Id like to know how what ettiquette I should observe when I see a periscope bearing down on me... should i give way to port or starboard?

 

If the sub is the overtaking vessel he must keep clear, unless operating in a restricted channel when he may request you move to either port or starboard if you draw less water. Being a N/b you do.

 

If the sub is approaching from port or starboard just follow the 'rules of the road' and obviously if you're meeting head on you'll no doubt turn to starboard.

 

I was once motoring a yacht, due to no wind, into Cape Canaveral. Two US nuclear subs, on the surface, were leaving via the main channel. Their escort vessel came alongside me and advised that I should turn to starboard when meeting. I advised them I was a UK Ocean yachtmaster and being British I did know the rules of the road. I then called up the US subs on the radio and had a friendly chat.

 

If you're sailing, all power vessels have to give way to you, unless in a restricted channel etc. I've had a huge US carrier correctly alter course to avoid a collision whilst I was sailing across the Atlantic.

 

So now you know

[owen]

If the sub is the overtaking vessel he must keep clear, unless operating in a restricted channel when he may request you move to either port or starboard if you draw less water. Being a N/b you do.If the sub is approaching from port or starboard just follow the 'rules of the road' and obviously if you're meeting head on you'll no doubt turn to starboard.I was once motoring a yacht, due to no wind, into Cape Canaveral. Two US nuclear subs, on the surface, were leaving via the main channel. Their escort vessel came alongside me and advised that I should turn to starboard when meeting. I advised them I was a UK Ocean yachtmaster and being British I did know the rules of the road. I then called up the US subs on the radio and had a friendly chat. If you're sailing, all power vessels have to give way to you, unless in a restricted channel etc. I've had a huge US carrier correctly alter course to avoid a collision whilst I was sailing across the Atlantic. So now you know :lol:i dont think theres nuclear subs down there realy but something moved under neath i looked saw nothing and then :D

[Pete of Ebor]

I am a "former" Challenger shareholder, in light of the current situation I came and had a look at this site to see if any advice or suggestions had been posted here. I have since found another site that had been set up to provide us with all of the info that we need to continue our syndicates.I did however learn a few things as I was browsing through the site so thought I'd ask the advice of some of you proper boaters on a few issues I've got.I reference the following thread:http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php...p;hl=challenger[/url]I'm having problems getting my boat up to full waterskiing speed. This is a problem as my wife gets a bit bored whilst cruising long pounds and is an excellent waterskier. Has anyone tried to fit hydrofoils to their narrowboat, and have they found it sucessful? There are of course safety issues to consider. Is it compulsory to have a "spotter" on the counter to monitor the skier? I've checked our licence and Waterscape but there is no mention of it. Also could you advise if there is a commercially available prop-shield in case the skier is not able to stop as fast as the boat.Could some proper boaters also suggest a suitable pound for skiing? All of my tests have been carried out on the Sutton Stop to Hilmorton locks pound but I keep coming unstuck when the footbridge is closed at Rose Narrowboats. I hear the Bridgewater may be more suitable.I would also like to ask some proper boaters if they know of a School of Arrogance in which I can enrol. I've tried but nothing in my expensive public school education taught me how to be a fully fledged nasty stuck-up p**k, no matter how hard I try.Perhaps a proper boater could also offer some advice on running a boat, I don't believe our syndicate's combined 178 years boating experience is really going to be enough to "do the arranging" by ourselves and would hate to pass you at full skiing speed whilst looking haggared.Finally, can anyone help with a secure gun case I can keep on the roof to repel boarders? Leaving my Remington 700 LVSF vermin rifle on the roof is probably a bit irresponsibe, I realise that a lot of us Chellenger owners do it but I agree it could endanger life if not secured properly.Sorry for so many questions but my 23 years service in the Royal Navy has clearly not prepared me for the rigours of the inland waterways mastered by you proper boaters.

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[Adam]

What are the rules around water skiing on a canal? Are speed limits exempt if you are towing a water skiier? I notice BW have designated water skiing areas on certain rivers.

[Yoda]

What are the rules around water skiing on a canal? Are speed limits exempt if you are towing a water skiier? I notice BW have designated water skiing areas on certain rivers.

 

I do it at night so BW can't see me. I also do it in tunnels where its dark.