Taking the pi55?

[noddyboater]

Has anyone passed Streethay Wharf lately and seen the knackered Dawncraft with it's adjacent boat size pile of crap on the towpath, including a lovely homemade sign saying "SLOW DOWN CUN#? 

I'm not entirely sure someone bending the rules as such can expect a sedate, tick over pass by. Or can they? 

[nicknorman]

1 minute ago, noddyboater said:

Has anyone passed Streethay Wharf lately and seen the knackered Dawncraft with it's adjacent boat size pile of crap on the towpath, including a lovely homemade sign saying "SLOW DOWN CUN#? 

I'm not entirely sure someone bending the rules as such can expect a sedate, tick over pass by. Or can they? 

No. Carry on. And if there are complaints, reverse back and do it again. Although Caution, a nutter in a Dawncraft is probably faster than any narrowboat!

[noddyboater]

Just now, nicknorman said:

No. Carry on. And if there are complaints, reverse back and do it again. Although Caution, a nutter in a Dawncraft is probably faster than any narrowboat!

I don't think it had an engine..

2 minutes ago, noddyboater said:

I don't think it had an engine..

In fact most of the knackered old cruisers don't appear to have an engine. Maybe they have one that's shared around once a year when they actually decide to move.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

16 minutes ago, noddyboater said:

Has anyone passed Streethay Wharf lately and seen the knackered Dawncraft with it's adjacent boat size pile of crap on the towpath, including a lovely homemade sign saying "SLOW DOWN CUN#? 

I'm not entirely sure someone bending the rules as such can expect a sedate, tick over pass by. Or can they? 

haven’t been that way for a year or two,

is the boat by Streethay or closer to the Plough (Pub)?

it’d be like a red rag to a bull for me just seeing the sign like that. 

[StephenA]

22 minutes ago, noddyboater said:

Has anyone passed Streethay Wharf lately and seen the knackered Dawncraft with it's adjacent boat size pile of crap on the towpath, including a lovely homemade sign saying "SLOW DOWN CUN#? 

I'm not entirely sure someone bending the rules as such can expect a sedate, tick over pass by. Or can they? 

 

Are you censoring the word or is it like that on the notice. If you're the censor then I'd be onto CRT about it.

[noddyboater]

29 minutes ago, 5239 said:

haven’t been that way for a year or two,

is the boat by Streethay or closer to the Plough (Pub)?

it’d be like a red rag to a bull for me just seeing the sign like that. 

Just topside (Fradley) of Streethay 

28 minutes ago, StephenA said:

 

Are you censoring the word or is it like that on the notice. If you're the censor then I'd be onto CRT about it.

I'm being polite, the sign definitely isn't. 

If I was on a family holiday with young kids I wouldn't be happy.

Personally I'm more concerned about the pile of crap that will be left behind when he eventually moves/sinks.

[Chris John]

I doubt it’ll ever move. It’s been there a few years now 

[haggis]

On the subject of slow down signs a boat on the long term moorings on the middlewich branch takes the biscuit. It has been on his boat window for years until we passed that way in April when it had gone. However, he has had a new one made. 

It is the sign which mentions master boaters.. 

I must admit it brings out the worst in me but I seldom get to steer past there now 😃

[Arthur Marshall]

8 minutes ago, haggis said:

On the subject of slow down signs a boat on the long term moorings on the middlewich branch takes the biscuit. It has been on his boat window for years until we passed that way in April when it had gone. However, he has had a new one made. 

It is the sign which mentions master boaters.. 

I must admit it brings out the worst in me but I seldom get to steer past there now 😃

That "master boaters" sign always makes me wind the throttle up a notch. There's one mooring where everyone seems to have been issued with those "tickover" stickers, which does the same job.

That being said  if the bloke I passed at too high a speed a couple of days ago is on here, I apologise. I was so confused by going in and out of gear because of the divvy in front of me that when we had to negotiate boats going in both directions while almost at a standstill that I over compensated trying to get some steering back to avoid hitting him.

[MrsM]

37 minutes ago, noddyboater said:

Just topside (Fradley) of Streethay 

I'm being polite, the sign definitely isn't. 

If I was on a family holiday with young kids I wouldn't be happy.

Personally I'm more concerned about the pile of crap that will be left behind when he eventually moves/sinks.

Absolutely agree. That is horrible and I hope CRT take action. 

[magnetman]

1 hour ago, noddyboater said:

including a lovely homemade sign saying "SLOW DOWN CUN#? 

 

This is a byelaw infringement. 

 

The CRT are right CUN#S when it comes to asking them about if, when and whether they are going to actually enforce byelaws but there definitely will be one about displaying signs without permission..

 

I do not know what the exact spelling was but the CRT do need to get onto what is happening on their land parcels and do it quickly otherwise there will be a lot more CUN# type behaviour in general and the whole thing will all be FU###D really quickly. 

 

 

 

I know its a bit rude and slightly flippant but the time has now come for the navigation authority to get their SHI# together and sort it out otherwise its going to go rotten. 

 

 

[haggis]

26 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

That "master boaters" sign always makes me wind the throttle up a notch. 

I'm glad I am not the only one who is affected like that by that sign! I think the sign mentions  2 mph which means we should actually speed up to comply 😃

[agg221]

I particularly like the 'please pass at 850rpm' sign. I am inclined to try, although given that 360rpm gives 4mph if the water is deep enough it would be something of a challenge to wind it up that far!

 

Alec

[MtB]

2 hours ago, Chris John said:

I doubt it’ll ever move. It’s been there a few years now 

 

 

Been learning the ropes from George Ward it would appear. One wonders how many others in the making there are too.

 

 

 

Strange how CRT will hassle the easy targets but allow harder cases like this to take the piss for years on end.

 

 

[b00ke23]

4 hours ago, noddyboater said:

Just topside (Fradley) of Streethay 

I'm being polite, the sign definitely isn't. 

If I was on a family holiday with young kids I wouldn't be happy.

Personally I'm more concerned about the pile of crap that will be left behind when he eventually moves/sinks.

 

Disgusting behaviour. Report it to the CRT, and the police as it’s a blatant Section 5 public order offence.  

 

Section 5 makes it an offence to use “threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour” or to display “any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting” within the hearing or sight of a person “likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress.

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

On 10/06/2025 at 23:18, MtB said:

 

Strange how CRT will hassle the easy targets but allow harder cases like this to take the piss for years on end.

 

 

From what I’m seeing going through certain areas, CaRT have lost control, seeing lots of encamped boats, Ithat have obviously been there for a long time, with some even boasting all they do is phone CaRT and tell them they’re broken down, 6 month later they’re still there. CaRT really need to get a grip and sort the GRP encampments out.

Edited June 15, 2025 by BoatingLifeUpNorth2

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

1 hour ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

From what I’m seeing going through certain areas, CaRT have lost control, seeing lots of encamped boats that have obviously been there for a long time, with some even boasting all they do is phone CaRT and tell them they’re broken down, 6 month later they’re still there. CaRT really need to get a grip and sort the GRP encampments out.

and the flip side to that: I know of a boater who has broken down and is worried about CRT,

he wants to move and he likes his boating,

but being elderly and self employed sometimes hard times hit,

he has some work coming up but til then …

 

but ok, the encampments…if that’s what they are…couldn’t give a toss, they’re not on my back door and don’t interfere with my boating 😃

 

 

 

Edited June 15, 2025 by 5239

[junior]

Everyone has to be somewhere.

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

27 minutes ago, junior said:

Everyone has to be somewhere.

And be in that somewhere for months and months, usually on the towpath living in all their crap on and off their boat.

Edited June 15, 2025 by BoatingLifeUpNorth2

[Mike Todd]

21 hours ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

From what I’m seeing going through certain areas, CaRT have lost control, seeing lots of encamped boats, Ithat have obviously been there for a long time, with some even boasting all they do is phone CaRT and tell them they’re broken down, 6 month later they’re still there. CaRT really need to get a grip and sort the GRP encampments out.

How much extra on the licence fee are you prepared o pay for this activity? Enforcement is expensive, up to six figures per case, typically at least four figures.

[MtB]

5 minutes ago, Mike Todd said:

How much extra on the licence fee are you prepared o pay for this activity? Enforcement is expensive, up to six figures per case, typically at least four figures.

 

We already pay for law enforcement through central taxation.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

8 minutes ago, Mike Todd said:

How much extra on the licence fee are you prepared o pay for this activity? Enforcement is expensive, up to six figures per case, typically at least four figures.

all CRt have to do is put up the license for all Continuous Cruisers and then CRt will have raised enough money to get rid of any Continuous Cruiser in court,

don’t know why they have’t thought of it. 

sounds a brilliant idea 👍

[Chris John]

I bet no one’s reported this though 🤔

[Mike Todd]

9 minutes ago, 5239 said:

all CRt have to do is put up the license for all Continuous Cruisers and then CRt will have raised enough money to get rid of any Continuous Cruiser in court,

don’t know why they have’t thought of it. 

sounds a brilliant idea 👍

Doesn't solve the problem as the No Home Mooring supplement is supposed to pay for increased cost to CaRT (which I do not think includes enforcement) In budget terms, that money has already been spent so a massive increase in enforcement would need new revenue.

 

Wet finger estimate:

 

Around 7000 no home moorers (IIRC) and I would guess under 10% would meet the criteria for enforcement action. If so, then perhaps 700 cases per year. Let us try cost per case at £10,000 (each case would require numerous site visits to establish the infringement and meet the criteria to get to court) Say £7million a year? Not easy to estimate as some cases might opt to conform at least for long enough for the case to have to be restarted.

 

Around £250 on each of 30,000 licences. OK?

 

My guess is that if CaRT were required to mount a 100% campaign then it would be at least £1000 per licence. OK?

 

Edited June 16, 2025 by Mike Todd

[MtB]

5 minutes ago, Mike Todd said:

My guess is that if CaRT were required to mount a 100% campaign then it would be at least £1000 per licence. OK?

 

 

Which would perhaps, and paradoxically, drive many CCers off the canal system anyway. Certainly those who notionally CC only rather than do it properly, only because its currently so cheap!