Boat kitchen refit

[Pete-T]

I'm having the kitchen refitted on our boat and have been asked to choose an LPG built in oven/grill. Our fitter says we could choose a normal domestic model if preferred but having done an online search LPG items seem to be rarer than hens teeth!

Can anyone advise on where I can find an LPG built in oven/grill other than the few options I found at Midland Chandlers?

Thanks.

[LadyG]

No expert, I have a Thetford. , over 20yo.  I understood one can convert standard mains equipment. Calling @MtB

Edited May 8 by LadyG

[Onewheeler]

Caravan shops.

[TandC]

 

 

I think we bought our freestanding cooker from Argos - and was able to buy LPG - it's New World brand, cost about £300 and is absolutely rubbish.  But then they all are....it's not that much worse that the £700 Belling one in the other boat.   I'm resigned to the fact that they are all just a bit crap...   

 

You can buy conversion jets to swap in, which will convert from natural gas (larger jet size) to LPG (smaller jets).   LPGJets.com is a very helpful website/company.   So you could find your preferred option, contact LPGJets.com and see if they do a conversion set.

 

Your gas tester / BSC inspector will want to see clean burning blue flame patterns which you can turn right down to a low simmer without going out.  And, obvs they need flame failure devices - but I can't imagine any new-bought option doesn't have these now. 

[Tony Brooks]

10 hours ago, Pete-T said:

I'm having the kitchen refitted on our boat and have been asked to choose an LPG built in oven/grill. Our fitter says we could choose a normal domestic model if preferred but having done an online search LPG items seem to be rarer than hens teeth!

Can anyone advise on where I can find an LPG built in oven/grill other than the few options I found at Midland Chandlers?

Thanks.

 

Read the specifications for domestic stuff carefully - if the vendor provides them. Some do/did come with LPG jets/injectors to allow easy conversion.

[Wafi]

17 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

Read the specifications for domestic stuff carefully - if the vendor provides them. Some do/did come with LPG jets/injectors to allow easy conversion.

Yep - lots of people without a mains gas supply have LPG delivered (either fixed tanks that are refilled or bigger versions of the gas bottles we have in our boats) so there's a big market for domestic appliances that can be switched to run off LPG. I just had a look at the Currys website; of 65 standard-sized gas cookers, 20 are supplied with an LPG conversion kit and another 27 have an LPG conversion kit that's supplied separately. There's an LPG filter in their search tool. I'm sure the other appliance suppliers offer a similar selection.

[IanD]

20 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

Read the specifications for domestic stuff carefully - if the vendor provides them. Some do/did come with LPG jets/injectors to allow easy conversion.

Quite a lot of domestic gas hobs (and presumably ovens?) from many manufacturers are either available in LPG versions or can be converted, I found plenty when I was thinking of having gas on the boat.

 

https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/ct/cooking/hobs/gas/lpg-convertible

 

Bosch, CDA, electriQ, Indesit, Hotpoint, Beko, Hisense, AEG, Neff, Smeg, Zanussi, Hoover, Miele, Siemens, Elica -- you can pay anything from £70 to £1900... 😉 

[blackrose]

I assume domestic gas appliances that come with LPG jets have FFDs on every burner?

 

If that's true then is the only search criterion finding a unit that comes with LPG jets?

[MtB]

5 hours ago, TandC said:

Your gas tester / BSC inspector will want to see clean burning blue flame patterns which you can turn right down to a low simmer without going out.

 

They will also, if being diligent want to see "LPG" marked on the data plate as a permissible fuel.

 

Fitting LPG jets to an appliance not approved for conversion to LPG would classify the appliance as "Immediately Dangerous" in my opinion. 

[IanD]

4 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

They will also, if being diligent want to see "LPG" marked on the data plate as a permissible fuel.

 

Fitting LPG jets to an appliance not approved for conversion to LPG would classify the appliance as "Immediately Dangerous" in my opinion. 

 

Given that the one supplier I linked to had 116 different gas hobs legally approved for LPG use, I don't see why anyone in their right mind would go down the route you suggest...

[rogher]

Your fitter appears to know something about these things, so why don't they advise?

You don't want to buy something unsuitable for one reason or another.

[MtB]

Just now, IanD said:

 

Given that the one supplier I linked to had 116 different gas hobs legally approved for LPG use, I don't see why anyone in their right mind would go down the route you suggest...

 

I didn't suggest anything! 

 

Other than that someone rejecting your 116 possibilities and planning to carry out a conversion checks the appliance is apporved for conversion. 

[IanD]

5 hours ago, MtB said:

 

I didn't suggest anything! 

 

Other than that someone rejecting your 116 possibilities and planning to carry out a conversion checks the appliance is apporved for conversion. 

 

OTOH the OP actually asked:

 

"Can anyone advise on where I can find an LPG built in oven/grill"

 

and these are indeed much *much* rarer than LPG hobs, because there's a huge domestic market for gas hobs since many people prefer them but almost all domestic built-in ovens are electric for the same reason.

 

They only have one model available from CDA... 😞 

 

https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/sg121ss/cda-sg121ss-electric-1

 

There are however lots of LPG gas cookers (hob/grill/oven combined)... 🙂 

 

https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/nav/cooklpg/lpg-convertible-kit-included/cookpf/lpg-convertible/mc/cooking/pt/cookers

Edited May 8 by IanD

[truckcab79]

As has been pointed out by a number of folk there are loads of options. Try changing your search on Google to ‘LPG oven and hob’ or something. Most of the major appliance retailers have something. 
 

I’ve been looking for the same thing recently having read so many poor reviews of smaller ‘camper / boat’ type versions which we’d originally intended to go with. 

 

 

One thing to be aware of is most modern gas cookers also require mains electrics to operate the light / ignition and flame fail device.  There are some that don’t and come with provision for an AA battery or two to do the job. Limits the choice a little or means that you have to allow for mains.  We’ll probably do the latter for more choice even if it seems a little daft to put the inverter on every time we want to light the oven. 
 

What shopping for domestic types does give you is a much larger range to pick from and without paying the camper / boat tax.  
 

 

[Kingdom Isambard Brunel]

To the best of my knowledge, no gas oven or hob relies on having mains power to operate any safety device, flame failure, eg. a self energised thermocouple powered gas valve is normal.

There are battery operated spark generators which you could use instead of a mains one.

Of course there is no easy DC battery solution to the fan in a fan oven or the cooling fan in the electrical part.

[Tony Brooks]

46 minutes ago, truckcab79 said:

One thing to be aware of is most modern gas cookers also require mains electrics to operate the light / ignition and flame fail device.  There are some that don’t and come with provision for an AA battery or two to do the job. Limits the choice a little or means that you have to allow for mains.  

 

One thing to add is some need an internal fan running and that requires mains, but if there is no fan, and you are happy with matches or a gas lighter you don't need mains igniters. That is unless the flame failure is mains operated, but I doubt many, if any, are.

[truckcab79]

1 hour ago, Kingdom Isambard Brunel said:

To the best of my knowledge, no gas oven or hob relies on having mains power to operate any safety device, flame failure, eg. a self energised thermocouple powered gas valve is normal.

There are battery operated spark generators which you could use instead of a mains one.

Of course there is no easy DC battery solution to the fan in a fan oven or the cooling fan in the electrical part.

Best the OP does his own research on the specific model. Lots online to say you can’t  light the oven without mains power. (Hob doesn’t seem to be an issue apparently). Largely as some FFD also uses an electrical circuit for advanced features like flame detection and monitoring. 
 

I wouldn’t rely on regurgitating what I’ve found personally though or what anyone else on here does for that matter. Best ask the manufacturer. Have to say when I did the response tends to be a standard ‘it’s designed to be plugged in’. 
 

So either connect it to mains or buy one designed not to be would be the safest options.  

 

 

 

[Pete-T]

Thanks for the comments and advice everyone, following further searches for convertible units as suggested I've narrowed it down to 3 options, so its just a case now of getting approval from "senior management"

Many thanks again.

[MtB]

3 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:

That is unless the flame failure is mains operated, but I doubt many, if any, are.

 

With my very best pedantic hat on, most gas central heating boilers have mains operated flame failure devices. 

 

But if the mains fails and prevents the flame supervison from working, the gas valve closes anyway. 

 

 

[truckcab79]

1 minute ago, MtB said:

 

With my very best pedantic hat on, most gas central heating boilers have mains operated flame failure devices. 

 

But if the mains fails and prevents the flame supervison from working, the gas valve closes anyway. 

 

 

I think that’s the point that I found made often when looking online. No mains and you can’t light it manually.  Not sure why it supposedly doesn’t seem to be an issue on the hob. 
 

Either way really not worth trying to find a work-around.  I’ll just run an extra socket to the oven and switch the inverter on as required if it turns out to be the case with whichever oven I go for. 

[CIEL]

On 08/05/2025 at 07:01, Onewheeler said:

Caravan shops.

Not shops, Caravan/motorhome breakers:-

https://nationalcaravanbreakers.co.uk/ovens 

 

 

[Terrierious]

We have a built in domestic LPG oven on our boat, it’s Hotpoint, fan assisted and very, very good! I’d never buy a ‘marine’ type cooker again as they aren’t great. 

[truckcab79]

3 hours ago, Terrierious said:

We have a built in domestic LPG oven on our boat, it’s Hotpoint, fan assisted and very, very good! I’d never buy a ‘marine’ type cooker again as they aren’t great. 

Yea. That’s what led us to going with domestic ones. All the marine / camper ones seem to have poor reviews and are very expensive.  
 

As it happens I’m extending the 240 today and will wrangle a feed up the back of the newly installed cladding. Might not use it but it’ll be there regardless. 

[blackrose]

On 08/05/2025 at 19:24, truckcab79 said:

... We’ll probably do the latter for more choice even if it seems a little daft to put the inverter on every time we want to light the oven. 
 

 

Just buy yourself a mains fridge. Then you don't need to switch the inverter off! 😋