Shroppie shelf

[Jerra]

6 minutes ago, dmr said:

 

These things are the work of the devil and using them is anti-social. When they come off they sink but the rope floats upwards just waiting for a passing prop to collect them. I have taken several out of my weedhatch. The really bad one had wrapped its rope round the skeg so I could not find it down the weedhatch as it sank, but every time we went into reverse it came up and got into the prop. As said above they are good for protecting the baseplate edge when moored against a stone washwall.

Nothing of the sort.  They are only deployed when moored and if they by some freak come off they are easily found between the boat and the land.

 

If people have them fixed so that they can fall between the moving boat and say a lock side then I would agree.  Mine are on hooks, live inside the boat until I tie up, they are no risk to me or anybody else.

 

They are IMO only a problem when they are used incorrectly.

[ditchcrawler]

16 minutes ago, dmr said:

. I have taken several out of my weedhatch. The really bad one had wrapped its rope round the skeg so I could not find it down the weedhatch as it sank, but every time we went into reverse it came up and got into the prop.  

They don't half make a noise

[dmr]

7 minutes ago, Jerra said:

Nothing of the sort.  They are only deployed when moored and if they by some freak come off they are easily found between the boat and the land.

 

If people have them fixed so that they can fall between the moving boat and say a lock side then I would agree.  Mine are on hooks, live inside the boat until I tie up, they are no risk to me or anybody else.

 

They are IMO only a problem when they are used incorrectly.

 

Yes, didn't intend to offend, I just don't know how people drop so many fenders into the canal, but cruising with fenders down must be a factor.

[LadyG]

3 hours ago, 5239 said:

LadyG, did you cut  the ropes/string yourself when the fenders caught?

🤷‍♀️

 

 

No, the water level drops down 24i nches, and up and down, but the canal is shaped in such a way that the fender eyes are rubbed against  the wall, or this ironwork. The mooring ropes pul, the boat in towards the wall which is not perpendicular, the stones seem to ne dressed in order to stick out rather than flat, the surface resembles a dry stone wall!

Edited March 14 by LadyG

[ditchcrawler]

45 minutes ago, LadyG said:

No, the water level drops down 24i nches, and up and down, but the canal is shaped in such a way that the fender eyes are rubbed against  the wall, or this ironwork. The mooring ropes pul, the boat in towards the wall which is not perpendicular, the stones seem to ne dressed in order to stick out rather than flat, the surface resembles a dry stone wall!

In that case your fenders aren't fat enough, that is what they are supposed to stop

[LadyG]

10 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

In that case your fenders aren't fat enough, that is what they are supposed to stop

I have fat ones i have thin ones , but i cant do much about bits of stonework and ironwork sticking out of the line of the wall and the movement of water.

I think i looked in to buying a few bigger plastic things but they were expensive and may be prone to popping .

The best one so far is a bit of old carpet with a long pipe. I could make a few more, but is a pia if they have to be removed when transiting locks.

[Jerra]

12 hours ago, dmr said:

 

Yes, didn't intend to offend, I just don't know how people drop so many fenders into the canal, but cruising with fenders down must be a factor.

I suspect the whole problem is permanently fastening the fenders in place.  Even if lifted out of the water the seem inevitably to fall in then they get caught.  The concept of having them permanently fastened seems odd to me as I rarely find the fender would be in the right place if fastened to the provided loops.

[dmr]

W have little rings welded to the roof (inspiration from the previous owner) so the fenders are always fixed on and just lie on the roof. Its a bit untidy but they are ready to put down at a moments notice. I keep a couple of fatter spares in the well deck and these can be used when the fixed fenders are not in the right place 😀.  Tge fenders are proper rope types, but I do have a couple of the rubber pipes (found in the weedhatch) for when I want to protect the baseplate edge.

[5239]

14 hours ago, LadyG said:

No, the water level drops down 24i nches, and up and down, but the canal is shaped in such a way that the fender eyes are rubbed against  the wall, or this ironwork. The mooring ropes pul, the boat in towards the wall which is not perpendicular, the stones seem to ne dressed in order to stick out rather than flat, the surface resembles a dry stone wall!

Yes a lot of the walls are built curved with beautiful stone work. When I spent a winter (2018) up on the Rochdale I spent a lot of time moored on the lock landings (not around Hebden though) Lock landings are usually a guarantee you’ll get into the side. And being quite I was never given any grief for staying on a lock landing, there seemed to be an acceptance at the time,

another suggestion: there’s a scrap yard in Hebden, just out past the Co-op, easy walking distance to the canal,

close enough to go get yourself a couple of small car wheels with tyres,

you might have to make two trips to carry each back mind,

they can sit flat or hang side ways, the water will take the weight of them so no need to put any extra strain on the fittings on the boat,

 

failing any of that why not get yourself off the Rochdale this Spring and head South to the narrow canals where life is so much easier. With the experience you have of them big locks you’ll fly up and down these baby locks. 

[Alan de Enfield]

2 minutes ago, 5239 said:

you might have to make two trips to carry each back mind,

 

How can you take two trips with each wheel ?

 

Is it a bit like the Fox, the Chicken and the bag or corn that you have to take across the river ?

[5239]

2 hours ago, dmr said:

W have little rings welded to the roof (inspiration from the previous owner) so the fenders are always fixed on and just lie on the roof. Its a bit untidy but they are ready to put down at a moments notice. I keep a couple of fatter spares in the well deck and these can be used when the fixed fenders are not in the right place 😀.  Tge fenders are proper rope types, but I do have a couple of the rubber pipes (found in the weedhatch) for when I want to protect the baseplate edge.

 I’ve collected enough rope fenders I can now do the same and leave them tied to hand rail and pop them on top when on the move. 
The last few I got was when I was with you up at Bugsworth and the bloke was chucking good ones away in the bins. 
 

1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

How can you take two trips with each wheel ?

 

Is it a bit like the Fox, the Chicken and the bag or corn that you have to take across the river ?

badly written but you know what I mean

[David Mack]

6 hours ago, 5239 said:

Yes a lot of there’s a scrap yard in Hebden, just out past the Co-op, easy walking distance to the canal,

Actually backs onto the towpath, although I'm not sure there's any direct access.

[KezzerN]

I was at a lock today watching a fender bob up and then disappear into the bubbling torrent: another one bites the dust!

[ditchcrawler]

9 minutes ago, KezzerN said:

I was at a lock today watching a fender bob up and then disappear into the bubbling torrent: another one bites the dust!

Its OK, someone will find it, behind the gate , in a paddle or round their prop,

[Grassman]

On 13/03/2025 at 13:17, KezzerN said:

 

 

I was moored in a remote spot with empty canal for miles and a boat came and moored right next to me!  Why do they do that!

 

 

One the Shroppie I think they do it because when they see you moored there they know it means there's a pretty good chance that there isn't a ledge on that section. As for why they do it on other canals I don't know, but I presume they perceive it's more secure, as in safety in numbers.

[LadyG]

1 minute ago, Grassman said:

 

One the Shroppie I think they do it because when they see you moored there they know it means there's a pretty good chance that there isn't a ledge on that section. As for why they do it on other canals I don't know, but I presume they perceive it's more secure, as in safety in numbers.

Worse thing is when someone moors up tight  then runs the engine so it fills your cabin with exhaust gases, and don't even blush when they see you closing your doors, 

[Stroudwater1]

1 minute ago, Grassman said:

 

One the Shroppie I think they do it because when they see you moored there they know it means there's a pretty good chance that there isn't a ledge on that section. As for why they do it on other canals I don't know, but I presume they perceive it's more secure, as in safety in numbers.

They also moor right next to another boat to avoid “git gaps” allowing another boat in behind them. Some areas of the Shroppie have short areas of good mooring.
 

It can be an awkward sparky conversation if the new  moorer is being considerate yet gets told off for mooring too close. 

[KezzerN]

3 hours ago, Grassman said:

 

One the Shroppie I think they do it because when they see you moored there they know it means there's a pretty good chance that there isn't a ledge on that section. As for why they do it on other canals I don't know, but I presume they perceive it's more secure, as in safety in numbers.

 

 

They could of course be mooring up next to the psychopath of the waterways. 😂

[Alan de Enfield]

45 minutes ago, KezzerN said:

 

 

They could of course be mooring up next to the psychopath of the waterways. 😂