Pay at pump?

[emm]

Does anyone know of any boatyards or marinas that have self service pay at the pump with a bank card style diesel pumps?

Thanks!

[Alan de Enfield]

 

I have never come across one.

I'd guess that it would make your declaration percentages difficult to apply, unless you always accepted a 'standard' 60/40 and the pump was set up to that split.

 

Why do you ask ?

 

[robtheplod]

6 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

I have never come across one.

I'd guess that it would make your declaration percentages difficult to apply, unless you always accepted a 'standard' 60/40 and the pump was set up to that split.

 

Why do you ask ?

 

and most importantly you'd miss the opportunity to to into the shop and get some sweets! 

[nickd]

There used to be one at Sawley on the cut from the R Trent weir to the locks. Mind you that was a few years ago and it could have changed since then.

[Mike Todd]

50 minutes ago, emm said:

Does anyone know of any boatyards or marinas that have self service pay at the pump with a bank card style diesel pumps?

Thanks!

It is a while back but I seem to recall that at that time White Bear on the L&L did that - they were minimally staffed and it allowed sales 24/7, but it may have changed, of course! I have another memory at the back of my mind but cannot recall just where. As had been said, it does entail a specific split but that is the boatyard and customers choice -if you don't like that figure, go elsewhere!

[Onewheeler]

On the way out to the Saône from the marina at St Jean de Losne. Good price too.

[Tony Brooks]

When we were there the marina at the end of the Prees Branch (Llangollen) did that, but that was a few years ago.

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

1 hour ago, nickd said:

There used to be one at Sawley on the cut from the R Trent weir to the locks. Mind you that was a few years ago and it could have changed since then.

Yes they still have a pay at the pump, 

but you need to register and get an AquaVista fuel card before you can use it, which you to insert into the pump before your bank card for it all to work.

[emm]

3 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

I have never come across one.

I'd guess that it would make your declaration percentages difficult to apply, unless you always accepted a 'standard' 60/40 and the pump was set up to that split.

 

Why do you ask ?

 

I just wondered if it might be an option for a small boatyard with no staff.

Not sure about possible pollution issues but other yards have self service with payment in shop (I’m thinking Braunston Marina)

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[TheBiscuits]

1 hour ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

Yes they still have a pay at the pump, 

but you need to register and get an AquaVista fuel card before you can use it, which you to insert into the pump before your bank card for it all to work.

 

Do all Aquavista sites have this setup?  That's certainly how it works at the three I know well - White Bear, Galgate and Glasson - and you've just confirmed it's the same at Sawley.

 

 

[Momac]

3 hours ago, Onewheeler said:

On the way out to the Saône from the marina at St Jean de Losne. Good price too.

I particularly liked like response. The OP wasn't specific about the location .

 

 

[baldlimey]

It has been a few years but last time I was in pillings you could

[Alan de Enfield]

27 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 

Do all Aquavista sites have this setup?  That's certainly how it works at the three I know well - White Bear, Galgate and Glasson - and you've just confirmed it's the same at Sawley.

 

 

 

It was the same at kings marina and Hull marina when we were there - HOWEVER You could only get the card if you moored in one of their marinas and it was not available to anyone else.

That is why I didn't mention it in my earlier post as it is not (was not) available to the 'public'.

 

There were (are?) two cards - I think they were Blue and Green, one for liveaboards which allowed you to buy the fuel at 100% domestic rate, and the other at a fixed 60/40 rate.

Somehow I ended up with both cards.

[Momac]

7 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

There were (are?) two cards - I think they were Blue and Green, one for liveaboards which allowed you to buy the fuel at 100% domestic rate, and the other at a fixed 60/40 rate.

Somehow I ended up with both cards.

I recall getting the cards in case of need. I may be wrong but  don't think the system was  ever installed at Hull.

 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

4 minutes ago, Momac said:

I recall getting the cards in case of need. I may be wrong but  don't think the system was  ever installed at Hull.

 

 

I thought it was.

 

I know that generally it was attended service and you'd get filled up and go across the road to the office to pay - I think you had to show your card for the split you were declaring.

 

It was very difficult getting a 23 foot beam boat tight into the corner where the pump was. and even harder getting back out.

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

28 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

It was the same at kings marina and Hull marina when we were there - HOWEVER You could only get the card if you moored in one of their marinas and it was not available to anyone else.

That is why I didn't mention it in my earlier post as it is not (was not) available to the 'public'.

 

There were (are?) two cards - I think they were Blue and Green, one for liveaboards which allowed you to buy the fuel at 100% domestic rate, and the other at a fixed 60/40 rate.

Somehow I ended up with both cards.

 The card I have is blue, I do not moor at an Aquavista Marina.

 What I would like to know if anyone can answer, is can you use the Aquavista pumps 24hr or only during their Marina office hours?

[Mike Todd]

1 hour ago, TheBiscuits said:

 

Do all Aquavista sites have this setup?  That's certainly how it works at the three I know well - White Bear, Galgate and Glasson - and you've just confirmed it's the same at Sawley.

 

 

No: certainly at Cropredy and Brinklow it is staff operated. But both of those have quite busy offices and staffing levels.

[Momac]

1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

I thought it was.

 

I know that generally it was attended service and you'd get filled up and go across the road to the office to pay - I think you had to show your card for the split you were declaring.

 

It was very difficult getting a 23 foot beam boat tight into the corner where the pump was. and even harder getting back out.

I showed them the card and they said it wasn't required . But that was a few years ago. I think I still have the cards somewhere on the boat. I don't refuel at Hull as its always expensive . I heard it was £2 per litre last year although that might have been an exaggeration.

 

 

[Adam]

Surely selling red diesel "pay at pump" can't work realistically, given the marina is burdened by hmrc to record details/ require declarations from purchasers.

 

 

Bear in mind the declaration is your's to make.

 

Maybe if they sold white diesel 

[Momac]

Just now, Adam said:

Surely selling red diesel "pay at pump" can't work realistically, given the marina is burdened by hmrc to record details/ require declarations from purchasers.

This is where the Aquavista system comes in as it identifies the customer and the required declaration via a pre-arranged card. 

4 minutes ago, Adam said:

Maybe if they sold white diesel 

White diesel would have to be at the full road duty rate which at the waterside would make it (at least) Motorway service station diesel prices and not supermarket diesel prices . I don't think most boaters would be too happy about that.

 

 

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

7 minutes ago, Momac said:

This is where the Aquavista system comes in as it identifies the customer and the required declaration via a pre-arranged card. 

I can’t fully remember what details Aquavista asked for but it wasn’t a lot, Name, D.O.B. but once they put it into their computer they knew everything, so I don’t know who they are linked into, but I imagine if you tried to not be truthful when applying for their fuel card they will suss you.

[emm]

26 minutes ago, Adam said:

Surely selling red diesel "pay at pump" can't work realistically, given the marina is burdened by hmrc to record details/ require declarations from purchasers.

 

 

Bear in mind the declaration is your's to make.

 

Maybe if they sold white diesel 

I guess anyone could buy it and put into Jerry cans for plant machinery etc which I think can’t use red anymore?

I just wondered if any yards had pay at pump but I’m guessing not apart from the aquavista system ?

thanks for the info all!

[Phoenix_V]

On 11/03/2025 at 12:17, Onewheeler said:

On the way out to the Saône from the marina at St Jean de Losne. Good price too.

Dunkerque Grand large marina

[JoeC]

On 11/03/2025 at 13:50, Tony Brooks said:

When we were there the marina at the end of the Prees Branch (Llangollen) did that, but that was a few years ago.

Whixall Marina ... it is now a manned pump.