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I got the impression OP initially wanted a sailaway to fit out himself using his joinery skills and his workshop, which would save a lot of labour costs. Though this sounds logical it may not work easily in practice as he may be discovering.

Vetus is renowned for cheap diesel engine install and expensive spares.

I'm not sure who would be doing the electrics, if its electric propulsion there are quite a few extra considerations before writing the first cheque....

Alan de Enfield · February 5

44 minutes ago, LadyG said:

if its electric propulsion there are quite a few extra considerations before writing the first cheque....

I doubt that with all the list of diesel related parts (including a diesel tank, diesel filler, diesel hoses etc) he is plannig for electric propulsion, although, he may have a diesel fired range in the galley !

magnetman · February 5

Diesel generator.

matty40s · February 5

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LadyG · February 5

Im sure electric propulsion was on the original agenda, maybe there has been a reassement.

Edited February 5 by LadyG

Peanut · February 5

1 hour ago, LadyG said:

I got the impression OP initially wanted a sailaway to fit out himself using his joinery skills and his workshop, which would save a lot of labour costs. Though this sounds logical it may not work easily in practice as he may be discovering.

Vetus is renowned for cheap diesel engine install and expensive spares.

Thank you LadyG, I was confused by a previous thread.

If the OP is thinking of installing a Yellow engine, then from his request for pointers to paten parts, he will be aware of the cost of genuine parts. This could be an ongoing expense.

I think then that giving a Vetus engine a swerve, and installing a different make would be a sensible move.

magnetman · February 5

Vetus often use small Mitsubishi plant engines. There may be some parts interchangeability.

I would rather a Beta Marine unit personally.

IanD · February 5

28 minutes ago, LadyG said:

Im sure electric propulsion was on the original agenda, maybe there has been a reassement.

My boat has "electric propulsion". It also has a diesel generator/tank/filler/hoses, because otherwise it would be largely unusable for cruising for much of the year, or cruising time/distance/speed would be limited... 😉

LadyG · February 5

10 minutes ago, IanD said:

My boat has "electric propulsion". It also has a diesel generator/tank/filler/hoses, because otherwise it would be largely unusable for cruising for much of the year, or cruising time/distance/speed would be limited... 😉

Yes, but isnt it one of those built in generators, which one assumes comes with fittings, or at least some instructions? I thought the generator is used to top up the batteries?

What I'm saying is that posting a list of parts and looking for cheaper alternatives. (forgive me if this is not the reason for the list), is not the approach most people use.

Maybe the OP could clarify.

Edited February 5 by LadyG

IanD · February 5

2 minutes ago, LadyG said:

Yes, but isnt it one of those built in generators, which one assumes comes with fittings, or at least some instructions? I thought the generator is used to top up the batteries?

What I'm saying is that posting a list of parts and looking for cheaper alternatives. (forgive me if this is not the reason for the list), is not the approach most people use.

Of course, but it still needs all the same diesel fittings on the boat (tank, filler, inlet, piping, hoses, filters...) as a diesel propulsion engine.

Edited February 5 by IanD

LadyG · February 5

32 minutes ago, Peanut said:

Thank you LadyG, I was confused by a previous thread.

If the OP is thinking of installing a Yellow engine, then from his request for pointers to paten parts, he will be aware of the cost of genuine parts. This could be an ongoing expense.

I think then that giving a Vetus engine a swerve, and installing a different make would be a sensible move.

Yes he might be aware of the cost, but he might not be aware that other options may be available which might be better.

I have an Isuzu and touch wood I've never needed any spares. My preference is to go for one of the engines which is known to be fitted in hire boats, they take a bit of hammer.

I think the OP may not be providing all the info required to get best advice from those on here who have engineering experience.

Edited February 5 by LadyG

Carl F · Sunday at 18:52

i was looking for advise on my choices thats all

is it me i feel alot of sarcasam and not much help keeps coming from my post.....

Alan de Enfield · Sunday at 18:55

Just now, Carl F said:

i was looking for advise on my choices thats all

is it me i feel alot of sarcasam and not much help keeps coming from my post.....

Maybe the response would have been more to your liking if you had done as asked, in the 1st reply, and gone back and formatted your post so we did not have 200+ lines of text with each line only having 2 words on it.

Tony Brooks · Sunday at 19:03

Just now, Carl F said:

i was looking for advise on my choices thats all

is it me i feel alot of sarcasam and not much help keeps coming from my post.....

I did not reply because your original post did not say what you now claim you want to know. It also seemed that you just copied a load of stuff out of a Vetus catalogue without taking much/any care over formatting to make it easy to read. My feeing is that the lack of care over presentation to make it easy to reply to is probably what caused the sharp responses. It certainly put me off.

I note that you seem to equate Vetus with high quality, but many on here probably feel the same as myself. Vetus = typical quality and high price, especially for spare parts.

It also seems that you are asking a mainly canal forum to help you specify parts for a sea or estuary boat. Maybe yhe YBW forum will get more responses, but please be clear on what information you want and just list the parts, not specific Vetus items, because basically you are demanding those moved to help go and look up what these items actually are. It would also help if you were a bit more forward about the boat size and type you are specifying for.

MtB · Sunday at 19:47

On 04/02/2025 at 20:40, Carl F said:

looking for good quality alternative suppliers to vetus products in a full new boat build some but not all of the items listed below.

Jeez.

Do you want us to build the boat for you too?

Peanut · Sunday at 22:57

When you have decided which Vetus engine you are going to use, you then need to find out what base engine they have marinised. Armed with that information, you can then find either OEM parts from the base engine manufacture or patten parts from a third party supplier. They are likely to be cheaper than Vetus branded parts, which might be identical.

Vetus marinising parts may well be specific to Vetus and you may have to pay the Vetus price.

As said, the YBW motorboat forum may have helpful advice, or a Vetus engine forum, or Facebook group.

You first need to know which base engine you have.

Edited Sunday at 22:58 by Peanut
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hider · Monday at 02:45

7 hours ago, Carl F said:

i was looking for advise on my choices thats all

is it me i feel alot of sarcasam and not much help keeps coming from my post.....

Is it me or does the OP make it deliberately difficult for anyone to offer specific advice?

His first post is a pain in the rectum to read and then we discover its only a list from a Vetus catalogue.

Then we get the usual moan that we are being sarcastic and unhelpful. New posters should be more attentive.

Stand By,

Enter the usual truckdriver forum Knocker from FaceAche...........

Peanut · Monday at 04:37

Many of the items the OP has listed have nothing to do with the engine, but are general Vetus parts.

Similar parts can be had from any online chandler, and he could try someone like ASAP and see if what they offer meets his need, or look elsewhere.

If he needs a specific Vetus part he would have to get it from them, or their agent, and pay their price.

The list if alternative suppliers is endess, and he will need to research each item to find the best deal for him.

Edited Monday at 04:39 by Peanut
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Tony Brooks · Monday at 07:44

4 hours ago, hider said:

Is it me or does the OP make it deliberately difficult for anyone to offer specific advice?

His first post is a pain in the rectum to read and then we discover its only a list from a Vetus catalogue.

Then we get the usual moan that we are being sarcastic and unhelpful. New posters should be more attentive.

Stand By,

Enter the usual truckdriver forum Knocker from FaceAche...........

Yes he did, and he has had plenty of time to edit his original post to make it more easily read. As he equates Vetus with high quality rather than typical quality, I suspect he may be an it. There was not enough information about his boat to give meaningful advice - what narrowboat has a bow roller? - and as of yet no clarification on that point.

nicknorman · Monday at 11:09

It seems to me that the OP is just a (badly formatted) list of all available Vetus parts trawled from their website.

Edited Monday at 11:10 by nicknorman

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