Tie stuff down the return

[tree monkey]

And again, tie stuff down Thursday ready for Friday, keep clear of trees and take care, if what they are forecasting is accurate this might be a rough one 

[magnetman]

 

Another weather bomb. 

 

 

[MtB]

Of course 20 (or 10, even) years ago the weather forecast just forecast "gales' and nobody bothered much about it. 

 

 

[magnetman]

 

Mike El Fish would be like 'A lady rang in from Cornwall saying she thought a weather bomb called Enid was on the way. No, its alright, there isn't a weather bomb called Enid on the way'

 

 

3 minutes ago, MtB said:

Of course 20 (or 10, even) years ago the weather forecast just forecast "gales' and nobody bothered much about it. 

 

 

 

The shipping forecast. 

 

Faroes, occasional weather bombs, easterly rising to severe weather bombs, good. 

 

 

[MtB]

7 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Faroes, occasional weather bombs, easterly rising to severe weather bombs, good. 

 

West veering north....

 

[Philip]

19 minutes ago, MtB said:

Of course 20 (or 10, even) years ago the weather forecast just forecast "gales' and nobody bothered much about it. 

 

 

 

Using sweeping descriptions is important in this event as people are more likely to prepare well and heed the warnings. And similar language & warnings would have been used 20 (or even 50) years ago, based on the forecast models. It needs to be taken seriously.

[magnetman]

To be fair the arctic weather bomb we had recently did actually cause temperatures to drop to the lowest in 15 years. Not convinced that this weekend will be anything more than an ordinary winter storm. It is January after all. 

 

There is a hazard associated with dumbing down which is that people stop taking any notice. 

 

Its a bit like the elfin safety problem. All that happens if people are taught that everything is incredibly dangerous is the normalisation of danger and the ability of some to recognise it is therefore reduced. 

 

Weather bombs make good news stories. 

 

 

 

 

 

[matty40s]

This from the Midlands upwards will be a fairly severe event. Expect Ireland as a whole to be several miles nearer to Wales after Friday lunchtime. Ireland will not have seen anything as bad as this since the Braer storm in 1993.

The West coast of Ireland WILL see major damage and power outages. 

 

NW England, Southern and central Scotland are already showing predicted gusts in the high 80s, low 90s, which is exceptionally high.

I expect to see some of the Met Office Amber warning areas turn Red by 11am tommorow....most definitely N. IRELAND, Isle of Man, Lake District and Dumfries/Galloway , Ayrshire.

 

[MtB]

34 minutes ago, matty40s said:

This from the Midlands upwards will be a fairly severe event.

 

An oxymoron if ever I read one!

 

Do you know any really small giants?

 

 

[MoominPapa]

1 hour ago, matty40s said:

Expect Ireland as a whole to be several miles nearer to Wales after Friday lunchtime.

Lol.  I wonder if the ferry prices will drop?

 

The forecast peak gusts here are going in the right direction and now less (just) than 100 km/h.

 

MP.

[Tonka]

8 hours ago, magnetman said:

To be fair the arctic weather bomb we had recently did actually cause temperatures to drop to the lowest in 15 years. Not convinced that this weekend will be anything more than an ordinary winter storm. It is January after all. 

 

There is a hazard associated with dumbing down which is that people stop taking any notice. 

 

Its a bit like the elfin safety problem. All that happens if people are taught that everything is incredibly dangerous is the normalisation of danger and the ability of some to recognise it is therefore reduced. 

 

Weather bombs make good news stories. 

 

 

 

 

 

Wasn't the last one that caused the record low temperature in January 

[Naughty Cal]

We are fully prepared..........................

 

to take the van out for it's first outing of the year tomorrow evening 🫤

[tree monkey]

1 hour ago, Naughty Cal said:

We are fully prepared..........................

 

to take the van out for it's first outing of the year tomorrow evening 🫤

I'm in your part of the world today and there's barely a breeze 

[haggis]

I think this is the calm before the storm! Here in central Scotland it looks like it will be pretty wild

[tree monkey]

15 minutes ago, haggis said:

I think this is the calm before the storm! Here in central Scotland it looks like it will be pretty wild

It seems like they are still unsure about the track it will take, the met office was calling 80mph in north Wales yesterday and it's dropped to 60mph today, it does appear to have shifted more to the north

18 minutes ago, haggis said:

I think this is the calm before the storm! Here in central Scotland it looks like it will be pretty wild

It seems like they are still unsure about the track it will take, the met office was calling 80mph in north Wales yesterday and it's dropped to 60mph today, it does appear to have shifted more to the north

 

Just had another look at the met office and parts of Scotland has been upgraded to a red warning, take care

[Naughty Cal]

1 hour ago, tree monkey said:

I'm in your part of the world today and there's barely a breeze 

Not forecast to get windy until about 5am tomorrow morning here.

[bizzard]

What amazes me is there is never ever a mention of the weather in southern Ireland on any TV channel forecast or radio, I know it is not a part of the UK, and yet we get weather news from other parts of the world that are nothing to do with us.  S/I is totally ignored.

[GUMPY]

5 minutes ago, bizzard said:

What amazes me is there is never ever a mention of the weather in southern Ireland on any TV channel forecast or radio, I know it is not a part of the UK, and yet we get weather news from other parts of the world that are nothing to do with us.  S/I is totally ignored.

There were cities and windspeed in Ireland on the Spotlight weather map last night but as you say no actual mention.

[Tonka]

1 hour ago, bizzard said:

What amazes me is there is never ever a mention of the weather in southern Ireland on any TV channel forecast or radio, I know it is not a part of the UK, and yet we get weather news from other parts of the world that are nothing to do with us.  S/I is totally ignored.

Where ?

[GUMPY]

It's gonna be fierce on the West Coast early Friday morning.

 

 

Stepson lives just inland 50km south of Galway, he won't be going surfing 

[matty40s]

ROI are covered by Met Eirrean, they covered the whole country with a red warning yesterday.

Neither them or Met Office cover Isle of Man.

[GUMPY]

2 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Neither them or Met Office cover Isle of Man.

Which was pointed out last night on the BBC weather but with a comment that it would be pretty much the same there 😱

[Tony1]

14 hours ago, magnetman said:

 

Its a bit like the elfin safety problem. All that happens if people are taught that everything is incredibly dangerous is the normalisation of danger and the ability of some to recognise it is therefore reduced. 

 

 

I think you raise a very good point, just as an aside from the weather thing.

 

The problem with BSS saying that too many things are risky (or outright dangerous) is that they're crying wolf, and they lose credibility. 

We've all heard the story of the boat that failed the BSS exam because the fuel cap had 'fuel' written on it, instead of 'diesel'.

And there are other examples of things being flagged up that appear to be spurious, or due to lack of knowledge on the part of the examiner.

 

But the problem is that two years ago my chimney was temporarily blocked, and there was a build-up up of CO in the boat. And my life was probably saved by the CO detector that BSS rules insist upon. 

 

The real problem - and it's one that they have created - is that I don't know how to filter out the important safety stuff (like CO detectors) from the stuff that appears to be worthless self-justification (like the word 'diesel' being written on a fuel cap). 

 

Edited January 23 by Tony1

[magnetman]

I had CO detectors long before the BS scheme mandated them. 

 

The reason for fuel type to be written is because quite often there will be a staff member at a boatyard who is not clued up. Some yards on the Thames sell petrol and Diesel. Without Diesel being written there is a chance of petrol ending up in your tank accidentally. 

 

That could prove to be a nasty situation. 

 

 

 

I always ask if I can do it myself but a lot of people would prefer the staff to do it. 

[Tony1]

8 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Without Diesel being written there is a chance of petrol ending up in your tank accidentally. 

 

That could prove to be a nasty situation. 

 

 

I've yet to see a marina with a petrol pump on the wharf that could accidentally dispense petrol into my tank.

Perhaps on rivers it is more of a risk, with petrol engines GRPs?

But whilst I appreciate their help in not being a nincompoop and ruining my engine, it's not a risk to my safety is it? 

I dont want them being worried about how well I look after my engine - I just want them worrying about my safety.

 

Edited January 23 by Tony1