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Its funny how they think people keep lifting 'straps' on the Boat rather than the man with the crane reusing them :rolleyes:

 

 

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p=mv

 

They just need the momentum of a car and the load rating of a decent strap to impart the necessary impulse on the cash machine. Because of the v term too, its possible a car can generate sufficient momentum to do the job. A truck would be slower and more conspicuous for the getaway, after all.

Posted
12 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Its funny how they think people keep lifting 'straps' on the Boat rather than the man with the crane reusing them :rolleyes:

 

 

Aye, I'm coming for blacking, got me own straps, will that save money...

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A 6m 4 ton roundsling (or spanset depending on your flavour of slang) is only around £30. Would have thought it's easier to buy them rather than nick some from a boatyard.

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1 hour ago, cheesegas said:

A 6m 4 ton roundsling (or spanset depending on your flavour of slang) is only around £30. Would have thought it's easier to buy them rather than nick some from a boatyard.

They are suggesting it’s the larger ones that are used in a travelling cradle so probably much larger and rated for 20 tons or so. 

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6 minutes ago, frangar said:

They are suggesting it’s the larger ones that are used in a travelling cradle so probably much larger and rated for 20 tons or so. 

 

yes. 

 

also "Boat owners are urged by police to securely stow away such strapping and remain vigilant..."

 

 

 

I feel it would be worth checking with the yard owner first otherwise they might think you are nicking the straps and call the police. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, magnetman said:

 

yes. 

 

also "Boat owners are urged by police to securely stow away such strapping and remain vigilant..."

 

 

 

I feel it would be worth checking with the yard owner first otherwise they might think you are nicking the straps and call the police. 

 

 

I did see that….couldn’t decide who was more incompetent in the reporting…the beeb or plod!! Loll

 

Posted
6 hours ago, cheesegas said:

A 6m 4 ton roundsling (or spanset depending on your flavour of slang) is only around £30. Would have thought it's easier to buy them rather than nick some from a boatyard.

 Buy on tick,

you can pay with cash next day,

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When there was a breakin at the factory next door......a copper asked me if I d seen any iron bars laying around........seriously, I had an engineering shop with racks of bars .......

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One was done at the minimarket up the road from me one night about eight years ago. Was awake and heard huge smash about 4am then loads of clanking and metal dragging noises in the next 30 seconds or so. They'd backed a mini-skip pick up into the machine at speed then attached the chains and dragged it out and pulled it up the road scraping the ground behind the vehicle. Made a huge mess of the corner of the shop and it was closed for repair for a good while. I imagine that the bigger boat lifting strops would do just as good a job.

 

As for boaters having their own strops, don't know any who do. We have a few at the yard but the crane guy's are better. He's possibly not supposed to use third party lifting gear either for insurance reasons. Imagine that boaters are far more likely to have their own ratchet straps for trailers etc.

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9 minutes ago, BilgePump said:

He's possibly not supposed to use third party lifting gear either for insurance reasons.

 

Just as with fire extinguisher, chains and other equipment the lifting strops need to be tested and marked by the testing company to certify them safe. I seem to remember that it is a 3-yearly test.

 

I've acquired quite a few 'out of date' / 'out of test' strops of various sizes that I use with my digger etc.

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3 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Just as with fire extinguisher, chains and other equipment the lifting strops need to be tested and marked by the testing company to certify them safe. I seem to remember that it is a 3-yearly test.

Lifting equipment at work falls under LOLER - it's actually a 6 or 12 monthly thorough examination, depending on what it's used for. Records need to be kept too. Generally, equipment used to lift people is done every 6 months, everything else is 12 months.

 

https://www.hse.gov.uk/work-equipment-machinery/thorough-examinations-lifting-equipment.htm

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17 hours ago, magnetman said:

Its funny how they think people keep lifting 'straps' on the Boat rather than the man with the crane reusing them :rolleyes:

 

 

My thought exactly.

 

I wonder why the boat had the strops on it? Possibly the boat owner is part of the cash machine thieving gang and reported the strops stolen so as to deflect suspicion away from himself.

 

 

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When I had my boat lifted out onto a truck this year I asked the yard when they last dropped a boat. After giving me a funny look, they said they got through several sets of straps a year.  (Westview, Earith)

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1 hour ago, Mike Tee said:

^^^^ That looks like a proper bit of kit with adjustable spreader

Container lifting machine, saw them used a lot around DIRFT when I lived locally, they were being used to lift shipping containers off trains and onto lorries (or stack them), spreaders went from 20 to 40 feet and the head had adjustment to still clamp onto containers that were off level and a little bit of rotation for where the machine couldn't approach perfectly from the side.

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1 hour ago, Jess-- said:

Container lifting machine, saw them used a lot around DIRFT when I lived locally, they were being used to lift shipping containers off trains and onto lorries (or stack them), spreaders went from 20 to 40 feet and the head had adjustment to still clamp onto containers that were off level and a little bit of rotation for where the machine couldn't approach perfectly from the side.


Yes indeed, you can see the mechanism that adjusts spread and rotation here. The adjustable length trailer was rather fun as well.

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Put the brakes on on the trailer wheels, and then drive the tractor forwards to stretch the trailer..

 

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7 hours ago, Scholar Gypsy said:

 The adjustable length trailer was rather fun as well.

Put the brakes on on the trailer wheels, and then drive the tractor forwards to stretch the trailer..

 

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One for @Arthur Marshall I think!

(They are known as 'trombone' trailers).

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