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What would be the river traffic around here? It's not an area I am familiar with. Is it leisure boating, or is there any commercial traffic in that area?

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How surprising ! 

 

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Looking at the mountain of earth in the background, I wonder if there has been some building work going on that might have triggered the failure.

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26 minutes ago, junior said:

What would be the river traffic around here? It's not an area I am familiar with. Is it leisure boating, or is there any commercial traffic in that area?


@Scholar Gypsy wrote an excellent overview of their travels up there, and passed some barges. Im not sure there’s much traffic of any sort though even here in Hull, there is the Driffield navigation and Beverley Beck further up. Beverley has a number of mostly leisure boats moored there.
 

The difficulty is you need to use the Humber to get anywhere. Busy tidal and not ideal for narrowboats. There are many large commercial ships a few trawlers and ferries on the Humber but going to jetties and ports on or just off the Humber including Immingham Grimsby and the port of Hull which is a bit downstream to the River Hull. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Stroudwater1 said:


@Scholar Gypsy wrote an excellent overview of their travels up there, and passed some barges. Im not sure there’s much traffic of any sort though even here in Hull, there is the Driffield navigation and Beverley Beck further up. Beverley has a number of mostly leisure boats moored there.
 

The difficulty is you need to use the Humber to get anywhere. Busy tidal and not ideal for narrowboats. There are many large commercial ships a few trawlers and ferries on the Humber but going to jetties and ports on or just off the Humber including Immingham Grimsby and the port of Hull which is a bit downstream to the River Hull. 
 

 

 

 

Thank you.  We did think about mooring there for a bit ...  I think traffic has reduced since I was there in 2021

 

https://scholargypsy.org.uk/2021/06/17/rivers-trent-humber-and-hull-2-old-harbour-to-beverley-beck/

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Is there actually a navigation authority for the River Hull? Is it covered by ABP who are in charge of the Humber? Who will pay to get this fixed? Maybe Hull City Council. So many questions!!

 

We are vaguely planning a trip this year down the Humber, either from Keadby or Goole, then up the Hull to Beverley and maybe beyond. Not sure when, maybe May / June time when the days are long.

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15 minutes ago, Alway Swilby said:

Is there actually a navigation authority for the River Hull? Is it covered by ABP who are in charge of the Humber? Who will pay to get this fixed? Maybe Hull City Council. So many questions!!

 

We are vaguely planning a trip this year down the Humber, either from Keadby or Goole, then up the Hull to Beverley and maybe beyond. Not sure when, maybe May / June time when the days are long.

Hull City Council within the city boundary.  But surely this wall is owned by the landowner, so not the responsibility of the navigation authority. 

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I saw another photograph earlier that showed excavation going on in the area masked by the trees on the right. I couldn't decide how that would cause the bank to collapse inwards to the river though.

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A similar thing happened at Greenford on the paddington arm of the GU a few years ago.

Old bank protection. Land use change. Someone is going to build something. Big mound of earth appears. Oh look the canal bank has fallen over! Lets fix that. Apply for permission to fix it and strangely enough the new bank protection goes in 1 metre further into the waterway. How odd. Nobody moans. 

 

Land grab. 

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9 hours ago, Mike Tee said:

Looking at the mountain of earth in the background, I wonder if there has been some building work going on that might have triggered the failure.

Its an aggregate processing area 

Looking at google the point of failure had a distinct kink in the sheet pile wall. So I would say its defect that has been ignored for years and has finally failed.

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16 hours ago, Alway Swilby said:

Is there actually a navigation authority for the River Hull? Is it covered by ABP who are in charge of the Humber? Who will pay to get this fixed? Maybe Hull City Council. So many questions!!

 

We are vaguely planning a trip this year down the Humber, either from Keadby or Goole, then up the Hull to Beverley and maybe beyond. Not sure when, maybe May / June time when the days are long.

 

Not between the Hull City Council area and the legal start of the Driffield navigation, which Bradshaw gives as Struncheon Hill Lock. Between the two, a distance of about 19 miles, is an open navigation - there is a right of navigation but no navigation authority to maintain or manage it. 

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16 hours ago, magpie patrick said:

 

Not between the Hull City Council area and the legal start of the Driffield navigation, which Bradshaw gives as Struncheon Hill Lock. Between the two, a distance of about 19 miles, is an open navigation - there is a right of navigation but no navigation authority to maintain or manage it. 

Out of interest who maintains the lock up onto Beverley Beck?

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12 hours ago, Alway Swilby said:

Out of interest who maintains the lock up onto Beverley Beck?

Beverley Beck has it's own navigation authority who maintain Grove Hill Lock and the Beck up to the town. Many years ago it was Beverley Corporation so it might now be East Riding Council 

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I was told a few years ago that the boat used in   only fools and horses    was on the river derelict 

some where  near weel bridge 

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On 05/01/2025 at 12:07, magpie patrick said:

Beverley Beck has it's own navigation authority who maintain Grove Hill Lock and the Beck up to the town. Many years ago it was Beverley Corporation so it might now be East Riding Council 

Correct:   https://www.eastriding.gov.uk/environment/sustainable-environment/rivers-canals-and-waterways/about-local-waterways/beverley-beck/

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