Question from a total novice

[MtB]

5 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

At least one instance quoted has the look to me of a regulator that was of insufficient capacity for the gas flow being needed, then the vaporising liquid could well cause ice to form from any water or vapour in the regulator.

 

Yes its little known that regulators have a specified maximum draw-off rating, as do gas bottles themselves!

[Alan de Enfield]

57 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

Yes its little known that regulators have a specified maximum draw-off rating, as do gas bottles themselves!

 

One of the mobile homes on our site, had so much 'stuff' on the gas that they had to have 4 x 47kg cylinders pig-tailed together feeding an unusually large regulator.

[DD.]

I highly recommend walking around the canal or river area you want to be.

 

I took a lovely long walk yesterday. Got talking quite by accident to a woman who has narrowboated for over 20yrs. Her partner is experienced in working on boats and ended up being an enjoyable encounter as well as possibly a great future contact.

 

Also. You can ask questions. But nothing can make up for loads of research. It can take at least a year to get a good enough understanding to know what you really want.

 

The practicalities and trade offs for each choice you make takes time to sink in.

 

I mean yes it's a good thing asking advice from experienced people. But what I thought I wanted, versus what I really want when I consider I don't want to be limited travel wise and want a degree of comfort. It's all a balance 

 

Don't start with what you can make do. I do think we all take time to truly understand what we want.

[zapgaz]

Just now, DD. said:

I highly recommend walking around the canal or river area you want to be.

 

I took a lovely long walk yesterday. Got talking quite by accident to a woman who has narrowboated for over 20yrs. Her partner is experienced in working on boats and ended up being an enjoyable encounter as well as possibly a great future contact.

 

Also. You can ask questions. But nothing can make up for loads of research. It can take at least a year to get a good enough understanding to know what you really want.

 

The practicalities and trade offs for each choice you make takes time to sink in.

 

I mean yes it's a good thing asking advice from experienced people. But what I thought I wanted, versus what I really want when I consider I don't want to be limited travel wise and want a degree of comfort. It's all a balance 

 

Don't start with what you can make do. I do think we all take time to truly understand what we want.

Thanks, lovely post.

[Chris Lowe]

I had the 47kg bottles as well, two on a changeover valve, never froze and neither did the valve or regulator.

 

Ours where eventually superceded when Shell Gas buried two huge bulk propane tanks in the bank of the Thames & piped it into all homes for free, British Gas wanted £500 a home to bring gas from the street outside.

 

I use the blue butane bottles now for camping, but haven't been camping in conditions that would freeze the gas.

 

[Peanut]

Propane changes from the liquid to the solid phase at -189.9° C, so the bottle doesn't literary freeze, as in ice. Just that at low temperature, there is insufficient heat for the liquid propane to escape the liquid phase and become a gas. Hence, keeping the bottle warm, or heating it gives it the energy to evaporate, when it is too cold outside. To say the bottle “freezes” means it doesn't give you any gas because it is too cold.